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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On July 8, 2019 Hasan comments in [https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/Hasan_and_Destiny_Break_Up_Over_Kamala_Misinformation#Hasan_addresses_criticism_following_the_debate,_accuses_Destiny_of_acting_in_bad_faith,_tweets_his_frustrations,_and_responds_in_reddit_threads several reddit threads] and sends multiple tweets expressing his frustrations with Destiny and [[DGG]]. Through both mediums, Hasan claims debates are "just for entertainment", accuses Destiny of acting in bad faith<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">,</del>, and ridicules Destiny for wasting time debating an ally on the left. <ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cayg1e/if_destiny_wants_to_remain_morally_consistent_he/ </ref> Following this, </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On July 8, 2019 Hasan comments in [https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/Hasan_and_Destiny_Break_Up_Over_Kamala_Misinformation#Hasan_addresses_criticism_following_the_debate,_accuses_Destiny_of_acting_in_bad_faith,_tweets_his_frustrations,_and_responds_in_reddit_threads several reddit threads] and sends multiple tweets expressing his frustrations with Destiny and [[DGG]]. Through both mediums, Hasan claims debates are "just for entertainment", accuses Destiny of acting in bad faith, and ridicules Destiny for wasting time debating an ally on the left. <ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cayg1e/if_destiny_wants_to_remain_morally_consistent_he/ </ref> Following this, </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On July 9, 2019, [https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/Hasan_and_Destiny_Break_Up_Over_Kamala_Misinformation#Hasan_submits_a_post_to_r/destiny Hasan submits a post to r/Destiny], reiterating several of the claims made in his initial debate with Destiny and harkening back to an [https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/I_don%27t_really_know_if_you%27re_pretending_or_not..._ft._HasanAbi_%26_Emmia earlier debate] involving his alleged desire to abstain from voting in the next election. Hasan concludes the post by requesting for Destiny to deplatform him if he truly feels he engaged in bad faith or gross misrepresentations of reality. Alternatively, Hasan suggests that Destiny should acknowledge he spent too much time on semantics during their discussion, concede to acting in bad faith, and admit to overwhelming him with rhetoric. [https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/Hasan_and_Destiny_Break_Up_Over_Kamala_Misinformation#Destiny's_comment Destiny comments] thirty minutes after the thread's submission, reiterates several of the points made in their earlier discussion, and accuses Hasan of functioning as a propaganda arm pushing "Bernie or bust" memes while simultaneously claiming to not do so. He concludes the comment by comparing Hasan's dismissal of his arguments as "semantics" to tactics used by right-wing individuals he had previously debated.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On July 9, 2019, [https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/Hasan_and_Destiny_Break_Up_Over_Kamala_Misinformation#Hasan_submits_a_post_to_r/destiny<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">,_Destiny_replies_in_thread </ins>Hasan submits a post to r/Destiny], reiterating several of the claims made in his initial debate with Destiny and harkening back to an [https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/I_don%27t_really_know_if_you%27re_pretending_or_not..._ft._HasanAbi_%26_Emmia earlier debate] involving his alleged desire to abstain from voting in the next election. Hasan concludes the post by requesting for Destiny to deplatform him if he truly feels he engaged in bad faith or gross misrepresentations of reality. Alternatively, Hasan suggests that Destiny should acknowledge he spent too much time on semantics during their discussion, concede to acting in bad faith, and admit to overwhelming him with rhetoric. [https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/Hasan_and_Destiny_Break_Up_Over_Kamala_Misinformation#Destiny's_comment Destiny comments] thirty minutes after the thread's submission, reiterates several of the points made in their earlier discussion, and accuses Hasan of functioning as a propaganda arm pushing "Bernie or bust" memes while simultaneously claiming to not do so. He concludes the comment by comparing Hasan's dismissal of his arguments as "semantics" to tactics used by right-wing individuals he had previously debated.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Spr1ggshttps://wiki.destiny.gg/index.php?title=Hasan_and_Destiny_Break_Up_Over_Kamala_Misinformation&diff=8859&oldid=prevSpr1ggs at 13:25, 14 October 20242024-10-14T13:25:04Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On July 8, 2019 Hasan comments in [https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/Hasan_and_Destiny_Break_Up_Over_Kamala_Misinformation#Hasan_addresses_criticism_following_the_debate,_accuses_Destiny_of_acting_in_bad_faith,_tweets_his_frustrations,_and_responds_in_reddit_threads several reddit threads] and sends multiple tweets expressing his frustrations with Destiny and [[DGG]]. Through both mediums, Hasan accuses Destiny of acting in bad faith, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">claims debates are "just for entertainment"</del>, and ridicules Destiny for wasting time debating an ally on the left. <ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cayg1e/if_destiny_wants_to_remain_morally_consistent_he/ </ref> Following this, </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On July 8, 2019 Hasan comments in [https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/Hasan_and_Destiny_Break_Up_Over_Kamala_Misinformation#Hasan_addresses_criticism_following_the_debate,_accuses_Destiny_of_acting_in_bad_faith,_tweets_his_frustrations,_and_responds_in_reddit_threads several reddit threads] and sends multiple tweets expressing his frustrations with Destiny and [[DGG]]. Through both mediums, Hasan <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">claims debates are "just for entertainment", </ins>accuses Destiny of acting in bad faith,, and ridicules Destiny for wasting time debating an ally on the left. <ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cayg1e/if_destiny_wants_to_remain_morally_consistent_he/ </ref> Following this, </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On July 8, 2019 Hasan comments in [https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/Hasan_and_Destiny_Break_Up_Over_Kamala_Misinformation#Hasan_addresses_criticism_following_the_debate,_accuses_Destiny_of_acting_in_bad_faith,_tweets_his_frustrations,_and_responds_in_reddit_threads several reddit threads] and sends multiple tweets expressing his frustrations with Destiny and [[DGG]]. Through both mediums, Hasan accuses Destiny of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">acting in </del>acting in bad faith, claims debates are "just for entertainment", and ridicules Destiny for wasting time debating an ally on the left. <ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cayg1e/if_destiny_wants_to_remain_morally_consistent_he/ </ref> Following this, </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On July 8, 2019 Hasan comments in [https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/Hasan_and_Destiny_Break_Up_Over_Kamala_Misinformation#Hasan_addresses_criticism_following_the_debate,_accuses_Destiny_of_acting_in_bad_faith,_tweets_his_frustrations,_and_responds_in_reddit_threads several reddit threads] and sends multiple tweets expressing his frustrations with Destiny and [[DGG]]. Through both mediums, Hasan accuses Destiny of acting in bad faith, claims debates are "just for entertainment", and ridicules Destiny for wasting time debating an ally on the left. <ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cayg1e/if_destiny_wants_to_remain_morally_consistent_he/ </ref> Following this, </div></td></tr>
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Hasan took it upon himself to reply to several of these threads, and tweeted several criticisms towards Destiny relating to the argumentative tactics he feels were deployed against him during the debate. <ref> x.com. (2024). X (Formerly Twitter). https://x.com/hasanthehun/status/1148239056368652290 </ref> <ref> x.com. (2024). X (Formerly Twitter). https://x.com/hasanthehun/status/1148269687232319488 </ref> <ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/caha90/destiny_hasan_postdebate_analysis/et9jgeu/ , https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/File:HasanBreakupHasanReply5.jpg</ref> <ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cahxr2/hasan_interrupts_destiny/et8w6a8/ , https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/File:HasanBreakupHasanReply6.jpg</ref> <ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cagi17/hasan_tonight/et9o06z/ , https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/File:HasanBreakupHasanReply4.jpg</ref> <ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/canf7z/hasan_dying_on_a_hill/et9tz58/ , https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/File:HasanBreakupHasanReply3.jpg</ref> <ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/caofst/destiny_became_a_fencesitting_centrist_in_this/etaju1x/ , https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/File:HasanBreakupHasanReply2.jpg</ref> <ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cah1w3/deleted_by_user/et9ozkq/ , https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/File:HasanBreakupHasanReply1.jpg</ref><ref> https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/File:HasanBreakupHasanReply7.jpg </ref> Shortly before a workout stream with [[Knut]], Hasan <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">sent </del>a tweet acknowledging his tendency to interrupt Destiny during their debate, and a promise to wear headphones and refrain from "going on monologues" in the future. <ref> x.com. (2024). X (Formerly Twitter). https://x.com/hasanthehun/status/1148350225146187776 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On July 8, 2019, several threads(nearly all of which are now deleted) chiding both Hasan and Destiny for their debate performance appeared on reddit.<ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cah1w3/deleted_by_user/ </ref><ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cau9h7/hasan/ </ref> <ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/caha90/destiny_hasan_postdebate_analysis/ </ref> <ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cahxr2/hasan_interrupts_destiny/ </ref><ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cagi17/hasan_tonight/ </ref><ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cau7du/i_like_it_when_you_debate_people_on_the_right/etbrumr/ </ref>. Hasan took it upon himself to reply to several of these threads, and tweeted several criticisms towards Destiny relating to the argumentative tactics he feels were deployed against him during the debate. <ref> x.com. (2024). X (Formerly Twitter). https://x.com/hasanthehun/status/1148239056368652290 </ref> <ref> x.com. (2024). X (Formerly Twitter). https://x.com/hasanthehun/status/1148269687232319488 </ref> <ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/caha90/destiny_hasan_postdebate_analysis/et9jgeu/ , https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/File:HasanBreakupHasanReply5.jpg</ref> <ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cahxr2/hasan_interrupts_destiny/et8w6a8/ , https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/File:HasanBreakupHasanReply6.jpg</ref> <ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cagi17/hasan_tonight/et9o06z/ , https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/File:HasanBreakupHasanReply4.jpg</ref> <ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/canf7z/hasan_dying_on_a_hill/et9tz58/ , https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/File:HasanBreakupHasanReply3.jpg</ref> <ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/caofst/destiny_became_a_fencesitting_centrist_in_this/etaju1x/ , https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/File:HasanBreakupHasanReply2.jpg</ref> <ref> https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cah1w3/deleted_by_user/et9ozkq/ , https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/File:HasanBreakupHasanReply1.jpg</ref><ref> https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/File:HasanBreakupHasanReply7.jpg </ref> Shortly before a workout stream with [[Knut]], Hasan <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">sends </ins>a tweet acknowledging his tendency to interrupt Destiny during their debate, and a promise to wear headphones and refrain from "going on monologues" in the future. <ref> x.com. (2024). X (Formerly Twitter). https://x.com/hasanthehun/status/1148350225146187776 </ref></div></td></tr>
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