Destiny Debates Joshua4Congress

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That's SUCH a cop-out... - Destiny debates on Bernie or Bust ft. Pxie, Joshua4Congress & more

On April 20, 2020 Destiny participated in a political panel hosted by Pxie, featuring Joshua4Congress, ImReallyImportant, melanie, and Johnnyscarlett. Despite sharing a left-leaning political affiliation, a noticeable rift was present amongst the panelists regarding the best methods of achieving left-wing policy (particularly with regards to the upcoming 2020 United States presidential election). ImReallyImportant, and Destiny advocated for pragmatic voting strategies, including supporting Democratic candidate Joe Biden as a means to counter Republican incumbent Donald Trump and secure incremental progress. Conversely, Joshua4Congress, melanie, and Johnnyscarlett expressed difficulty distinguishing Biden from Trump, and were more closely aligned with the Bernie or Bust movement.

During the debate, Destiny took particular issue with Joshua4Congress claiming to have trouble discerning the intent of Biden's policies as a result of his Autism . Destiny argued that Joshua was using a "cop-out", and that his alleged disability does not excuse his inability to understand or articulate policy positions. Following the debate, Joshua claimed in his Discord server that he was very tired and hungry, which resulted in his suboptimal debate performance.

Timestamps

0:00 Start 0:42 Pxie's, Melanie's, Imreallyimportant's. Joshua's, JohnnyScarlett's, Destiny's intros 5:40 First disagreement / vote not spent is a vote for Trump 14:00 Joshua's issues with Joe Biden 16:18 Destiny accused of doing "The Destiny Thing" 17:32 First attempt at trying to figure out what Joshua sees in Socialism 21:02 Second attempt ^ 21:29 Turbo round: guns, abortion, universal healthcare, coronavirus policies 25:04 Third attempt 32:21 Destiny tries to figure out what similarities Joshua sees in Biden and Trump (In policies? Governing?) 35:10 "Are you running (for congress) just as a meme on Twitter?" 41:10 The bussing issue 47:10 Getting the congress in order 53:08 Inaction / Indifference towards social issues 59:55 Trump vs Joe in the White House 1:12:50 Part 2 ^ 1:16:10 "Does it hurt your argument...how wrong you were?" 1:21:43 Destiny presses Johnny on their thought process behind not supporting Joe 1:33:42 Would Biden sign anything passed by Nancy Pelosi 1:38:50 Destiny calls out Johnny on their "Obamacare was a flop" statement 1:44:25 "I want to hear Joshua make a fucking argument" 1:45:10 Intro clip / title 1:47:59 Destiny rap gods how to build an effective socialist movement 1:53:47 "My strategy pisses off people like Destiny" 1:55:25 Talk shifts to Bernie 1:59:17 Claim check: Bernie took his name off of bills he wrote/added to in order to get them passed 2:01:40 Getting young people to vote / why did Bernie fail (grilling) 2:08:52 Candidates Joshua would've alternatively supported (including a billionaire) 2:12:35 Opposition of automated automobiles 2:22:13 Conversation goes back to Biden and his sexual assault accusations 2:25:30 Destiny and Johnny have a back and forth on Biden 2:37:15 Would Johnny vote for Bush Senior / Reagan vs Bill Clinton (heat gets turned up here) 2:40:38 "I'm asking you to have an actual principled non*weasily position on who we should vote for president" aka Destiny gives up trying 2:41:45 How to convince the undecided voter 2:47:16 Johnny answers what would change their mind 2:51:42 Destiny memes Trump being re*elected 2:52:54 Closing statements 2:55:53 A vote for Biden is a vote against Destiny 3:00:55 Post debate thoughts start here