Green Room

A meme summarizing "The Green Room Drama"

Destiny's second response to Labonte

Several months after Destiny's appearance on Tim Pool's podcast, All That Remains singer Philip Labonte sent a tweet claiming Destiny was rude to him in the podcast's Green Room. After a brief exchange between the two over twitter, Destiny would go on to send a several paragraph long response expressing his frustration with Phil's behavior(both in person and online). Many members of Destiny's subreddit/community found the entire exchange quite entertaining, and were sympathetic to Destiny's position. While those with a disinclination towards Destiny, including content creators such as Anthony Fantano, were quick to deride Destiny for his "diva" like behavior.

Tweets

Initial Tweets and Destiny's response

Tweet from Adam Friended criticizing Destiny.

February 13, 2024, 11:03 AM EST
Adam Friended tweeted out a statement deriding Destiny for categorizing all conservatives, including those with center-right views, as being incapable of distinguishing between different degrees of left-leaning ideologies. Adam goes on to point out that this generalization overlooks the diversity of thought within conservative circles and unnecessarily portrays center-right conservatives, who might be more open to dialogue or moderate positions, as extremists.

Tweet
“Conservatives will hate you just as much if you’re center left or far left.” - Destiny This seems wildly untrue. Sure it’s true for many hyper partisan conservatives. But why would you want to throw center right conservatives under the bus by framing them as insane haters? - https://twitter.com/Friended4Ever/status/1757435303017779414

Labonte's initial response to Friended's tweet.

February 13, 2024, 11:25 AM EST
Labonte responds to Friended's tweet claiming Destiny was the only guest on Tim Pool's podcast who was not friendly when they met.

Tweet
Destiny is the only person that was a guest on Timcast that was not polite and friendly when I met them.- https://twitter.com/philthatremains/status/1757440820720906712

Destiny's initial response to Labonte's tweet.

February 13, 2024, 9:17 PM EST
Destiny refutes Labonte's tweet, claiming he had positive interactions with individuals he had met through the show, highlighting activities like playing basketball and performing a spontaneous show with Seamus Coughlin.

Tweet
LMAO WHAT??? Have I ever even met you before? I've been friendly with literally every single person I've met off that show, in person. I've shot hoops with people who were on the show, and I even did a spontaneous show with another guy (Seamus Coughlin) while I went one time. - https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1757589791661609056

Labonte's response to Destiny's tweet

February 13, 2024, 10:06 PM EST
Labonte responds to Destiny's tweet, stating Destiny appeared dismissive and unfriendly, though not overtly rude. He recounts approaching Destiny in the green room, smiling and offering a handshake. Labonte then describes Destiny's reaction as a brief acknowledgment and a somewhat dismissive handshake, after which Destiny turned his attention back to his phone.

Tweet

Yeah, I wouldn’t expect you to remember. You weren’t overtly rude or anything. You were on the couch in the green room I came up, smiled, introduced myself, n put my hand out to shake your hand. You looked up from your phone n said “oh, hi” and shook my hand a little dismissively n looked back at your phone. I didn’t say you insulted me. Just you weren’t friendly. 🤷‍♂️ - https://twitter.com/philthatremains/status/1757602246978646518

February 13, 2024, 11:47 PM EST
Destiny sends out a several paragraph long Tweet in response to Labonte. In the tweet, Destiny expresses frustration regarding inappropriate interactions in green rooms, emphasizing their purpose as private spaces for performers to prepare or relax. He criticizes Phil for disrupting this environment(referring to him as a “talent terrorist and “attention rapist”), expecting Destiny to entertain him off-stage, and then publicly complaining about the interaction. Destiny goes on the highlight the importance of respecting performers' privacy and preparation time, stating that such spaces are not appropriate for fan interactions. He also outlined the myriad of tasks he might be engaged in while in a green room(i.e. scheduling events, flights, researching), stressing the inappropriateness of intruding on these moments.

Tweet

This response actually pisses me off 1000000x more than if I were just randomly rude to you, holy shit. WARNING - THIS IS THE MOST DIVA POST OF MINE YOU WILL LITERALLY EVER READ IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE. You have been warned. (: For some industry lingo (for anything that involves "talent" with "fans" etc...) "green rooms" are usually places where talent can rest or chill in order to either get ready for an event (free from being encumbered by random interruptions) or relax after doing a show/event. In my industry, it's mostly to insulate you from fans who want pictures, or from random people who want to chat or solicit something from you. If talent is in a green room, AND they're on their phone, "common courtesy" would not be to walk up to the person and start a conversation. If you weren't even on the show or working with the production crew for that episode, you shouldn't even really be in there at all. In fact, it's literally one of the most annoying fucking things to have to deal with. People are in green rooms there to insulate themselves from people like you. You are an actual talent terrorist, every single "performer's" nightmare: that some fucking rando would approach you in a green room, expect you to put on a fucking show for them and chat them up, and then have the AUDACITY to complain afterwards if they weren't happy with the interaction. If someone complained to me that they approached talent in a green room and tried to introduce themselves and the talent completely blew them off, I'd probably tell them "hey dude, they are literally in that room so they can focus on the upcoming show or relaxing after a show they were just on. You are approaching them in the worst way possible. You are literally attention-raping them, stop." If I was on my phone, I could have been managing social media (retweeting links for the show as per the host's requests or linking so my fans can find me), scheduling next-day events via email, scheduling same-day travel to catch a flight, researching or reading something for the upcoming show, or literally a million other things could be occupying my time. The fact that you are complaining PUBLICLY about approaching me in a green room as a fucking fan, and I STILL shook your hand and said "hello" to you, is actually fucking INSANE to me. If you want pictures, find me outside of a green room after a show, otherwise, seriously, fuck off. - https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1757627586937508229

February 14, 2024, 7:56 AM EST
Labonte responds to Destiny's tweet, expressing that he is a regular on Tim Pool's podcast, would not notice Destiny if he passed him on a street, and considers Destiny to be "ten times worse" than he initially thought.

Tweet
Im not a fan of yours destiny. I was being polite to you can I’m on Timcast regularly. I promise, if I passed you on the street I would not notice. Holy fuck you’re ten times worse than I thought you were. 😂

Later Tweets

Destiny's response to Labonte's video

February 15, 2024, 10:20 AM EST
In a tweet, Labonte criticizes Destiny for mixing up the concepts of "dressing room" and "green room," explaining that a dressing room provides personal privacy for activities like changing clothes or showering, while a green room serves as a communal space for people to gather before a show or event. He goes on to suggest Destiny lacks the understanding of this difference or intentionally misrepresented it for dramatic effect, labeling either situation as embarrassing for him.

Tweet

Destiny is conflating a “dressing room” where one gets personal privacy to change clothes, maybe shower, with a “green room” which is a place people congregate before a show or what have you. The difference is congregating is expected and normal in a “green room” but not in a “dressing room.” If he was as much of an old salt has he presents himself to be he would know this. Or maybe he does and he presented it the way he did for dramatic effect. Either way it’s embarrassing. - https://twitter.com/philthatremains/status/1758149389929898008

February 15, 2024, 1:31 PM EST
Two days following the initial dispute, Destiny came across an article from right-wing news and opinion website, The Daily Caller, wherein the initial twitter dispute was retold from an incredibly favorably perspective towards Labonte. Destiny tweets out his frustration, expressing that "conservatives are literally the softest cupcakes on the planet".

Tweet
I am convinced that conservatives are literally the softest cupcakes on the planet, holy fuck. https://dailycaller.com/2024/02/15/phil-labonte-destiny-youtube-diva-green-room-timcast-irl-interview-twitter-breakdown/ - https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1758197463381422392

February 15, 2024, 2:15 PM EST
Labonte tweets out a video of himself in the room where he greeted Destiny. In the video, Labonte shows the location where he greeted Destiny and explains this as a location where everyone "chit-chats". He then concludes that this location was not a dressing room, where talent would expect privacy.

Tweet
This is actually more like “catering” than a “green room” or “dressing room” - https://twitter.com/philthatremains/status/1758208342260957436

February 15, 2024, 2:21 PM EST
Destiny responds to Labonte's video, seemingly shocked that this debate is still occuring. He maintains that the location Labonte was showing is in fact a green room, and reiterates that Labonte's walking up to talent preparing for a show and expecting a conversation, is "unbelievably entitled."

Tweet

Bro I shook your hand and said "hi" what do you WANT from me LOOOOL If someone is sitting on the couch working on something in a ROOM where they are PREPARING TO GO ON A SHOW, it is considered a GREEN ROOM (they don't actually have to be green!!!!) To walk up to someone sitting on a couch and preparing for a show and then expecting them to have a full conversation with you is unbelievably entitled.- https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1758209977146098174