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Hasan Piker's Position on the Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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Both prior to and during the Russian invasion of Ukraine Wikipedia, Hasan has maintained a stance that is simultaneously supportive of Ukraine Wikipedia and hyper-critical of involvement by western nations, particularly the United States Wikipedia. At the onset of the conflict, Hasan denied the impending invasion, arguing that Ukraine and Russia Wikipedia sought peace and that news of a potential invasion was simply "western fearmongering" headed by "bloodthirsty maniacs" within the American government.[1] Two weeks following Hasan’s assertion, Russia would go on to invade Ukraine. Upon hearing this, Hasan concedes that while his prior assumptions were incorrect, western state departments should remain at fault for pumping out disinformation relating to the conflict.[2] When asked for examples of such disinformation, he points to predictions from western entities that Russia would bomb and invade Kyiv Wikipedia.[3] Two days following Hasan’s assertion, Russia would go on to bomb and invade Kyiv.[4]

Following the invasion, Hasan would hold on-stream donation goals towards Ukrainian relief funds, and consistently decry the actions of Russian Wikipedia President Vladimir Putin Wikipedia.[5] Despite this, Hasan has continued to maintain a staunch anti-western stance which has often-times mirrored Russian-talking points/propaganda. This has included:

  • Claiming America supporting Ukraine has been genuinely devastating for the country.[6]
  • Stating the US should force Ukraine to negotiate a ceasefire. [7]
  • Arguing Ukraine has no more men left to mobilize. [8]
  • Advocating for Ukraine to pursue appeasement towards Russia. [9]
  • Claiming NATO's Wikipedia goal is to maintain American capitalism as the dominant force. [10]

Position Prior to invasion

Hasan claims Russia can't go to war with Ukraine.

On February 5, 2022, President Joe Biden's Wikipedia senior officials informed lawmakers that Russia Wikipedia had gathered 70% of the forces needed to mount a full-scale invasion of Ukraine Wikipedia.[11]

On February 8, 2022, Hasan claims that Russia Wikipedia and Ukraine Wikipedia "can't go to war" and "the idea that Russia is going to do a land invasion into Ukraine is psychotic."[1] He goes on to state "The only people that want that to happen or act like it could potentially happen are western backers of war, people that are far away, people that will stand to benefit from this because they're gonna sell weapons."

Hasan claims Ukraine and Russia want to have diplomatic talks, and that "bloodthirsty maniacs have completely taken over the American government." Hasan goes on to praise China's efforts in expanding it's influence, and lauds former president Donald Trump for his handling of North Korea Wikipedia.[12]

On February 11, 2022, reports from the White House Wikipedia warned of an imminent Ukrainian invasion and urged citizens to flee the country immediately.[13] That same day, Hasan states Ukraine and Russia truly want peace and that the US is "acting sus". Minutes later, Hasan listens to a press conference from Putin about how Ukraine joining NATO would mean all of Europe Wikipedia joining a war with Russia. Hasan uses this speech to critique U.S. leadership, saying, "Does this sound like a person who's like 'I'm gonna invade Ukraine?' No, he's saying [he] doesn't want Ukraine to be a part of NATO."[14]

On February 15, 2022, in response to reports that "diplomacy is continuing to work", Hasan tweets the following:

hasanabi
@hasanthehun
“no way dude that’s crazy!!!!!!!! hopefully everyone in my chat who
thought war was imminent will now come in w a new perspective.
engage in some self examination as to why you got blindsided by msms
war drums once again."
SOURCE · 11:44 AM · Feb 15, 2022

On February 16, 2022, Hasan uploads a video titled "I WAS RIGHT ABOUT WAR IN UKRAINE" with a description that reads "Are we going to war? No. [Russia] was never going to invade Ukraine, and the western media has been fear mongering and banging the war drums the whole time."[15] In the video, Hasan praises himself for predicting Russia’s failure to invade Ukraine. Hasan bases this assumption on reports stating Russia claimed they were pulling back some of their troops from the border. [16] Hasan would go on to react to a press conference in which Biden states the claims have not been verified, and that an invasion is still possible. Hasan laughs this off, noting how silly it is for Biden to push diplomacy while also urging Americans to leave the country.[17] In his closing remarks, he criticizes the "bloodthirsty maniacs that have completely taken over the American government."[18]

Hasan arguing rumours of Russia potentially bombing and invading Kyiv are unfounded, and based off western State Department lies.

On February 16, 2022, Hasan tweets the following:

hasanabi
@hasanthehun
“this is the hill i will die on. russia cannot launch an urban counter
insurgency war in a neighboring country w/ 44 million ppl. with or
without nato support. this is why i have been saying he won’t invade
ukraine. not because of anything else. he’s a bad person not a mad one."
SOURCE · 10:29 AM · Feb 17, 2022

Position Following the invasion

Initial Reaction to the Invasion

On February 21, 2022, it is reported that Putin has ordered the Russian military to enter southeast Ukraine to perform "peacekeeping duties".[19] Following this news, Hasan admits that Russia has in fact invaded Ukraine. However, Hasan tempers this admission, and argues "There's been a lot of information that has been wrong -- completely wrong -- and there's still a lot of information that the western State Department is pumping out [...] like Russia is going to go and overtake Kyiv and they're going to go into Ukraine."[2]In the same video, when asked about why he thinks a lot of the information from the State Department is wrong, he cites their predictions that Russia will bomb and invade Kyiv.[3]

On February 24, 2022, Russia launches an attack for control of Kyiv.[4]

Views as the Invasion Progressed

Despite this, Hasan has continued to maintain a staunch anti-western stance which has often-times mirrored Russian-talking points/propaganda. This has included:

  • Claiming America supporting Ukraine has been genuinely devastating for the country.[20]
  • Stating the US should force Ukraine to negotiate a ceasefire. [21]
  • Arguing Ukraine has no more men left to mobilize. [22]
  • Advocating for Ukraine to pursue appeasement towards Russia. [23]
  • Claiming NATO's Wikipedia goal is to maintain American capitalism as the dominant force. [24]

Clips/videos to source, will not be in final article

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1ghyxi4/ukrainian_employee_of_the_h3_podcast_talks_about/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1ez3opc/what_does_hasan_think_the_us_president_does_does/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1fakwhe/vaush_takes_a_shot_at_hasan/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1d0vlum/hassan_says_he_is_not_a_russian_imperialist_and/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1fbt6vs/hasan_is_incredulous_to_the_idea_he_shilled_for/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1fakwhe/vaush_takes_a_shot_at_hasan/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1aj6y6v/hasan_tankie_moments_1_hasan_says_the_us_should/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/sv0r1j/hassans_insane_take_on_russian_annexation/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/t0lgi1/hasan_saying_dumb_shit_about_ukraine_compilation/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/t0b0gk/hasan_copes_hard/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/tp49kg/adam_something_going_for_hasans_jugular_jesus/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/11daulq/the_worst_takes_on_the_war_in_ukraine_lonerbox/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/15lqn2m/hasan_continues_to_miss_on_ukraine_lonerbox/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/16s3swt/lonerbox_ethan_vs_hasan_ukraine/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/17mvpgi/15_hr_documentary_of_hasans_awful_takes_on_ukraine/



Ukrainians respond to Hasanabi- Dylan Burns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPaHRTi49Ow https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/17miwyi/hasan_malds_about_dylans_new_video_claims_the/

References

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  2. 2.0 2.1 HasanAbi. (2022, February 22). I Was Wrong About Ukraine.. YouTube. https://youtu.be/aE5X0PxBGWg?t=29 Media:HasanRussiaUkraineWesterinDisinformation.mp4
  3. 3.0 3.1 HasanAbi. (2022, February 22). I Was Wrong About Ukraine.. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=557&v=aE5X0PxBGWg&feature=youtu.be
  4. 4.0 4.1 Wikipedia Contributors. (2024, November 19). Northern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Wikipedia; Wikimedia Foundation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_front_of_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
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