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[[File:MrgirlPantsDrama.png|200px|thumb|Right|MrGirl adjusting his pants mid-conversation with Chaeiry]] | [[File:MrgirlPantsDrama.png|200px|thumb|Right|MrGirl adjusting his pants mid-conversation with Chaeiry]] | ||
On October 16, 2022, Destiny and a panel of orbiters have a discussion on some drama involving [[Chaeiry]] and Mrgirl, as well as a "nuke" Lav wanted to drop on [[Hasan_Piker| Hasan]].<ref>Destiny Finally SNAPS, Almost Bans Entire Panel Addressing MrGirl False Allegations. (October 18, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 16, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-irtug0-WYE</ref> Chaeiry had thought MrGirl had intentionally lifted his shirt to flash his stomach/lower body, and tweeted out a #metoo style tweet alongside [[Stardust]] with regards to it. Chaeiry seeing the backlash towards her accusations, decided to speak with Destiny to get some clarification as to where she messed up. The two talks for a few minutes, and after some further discussion(and some rather aggressive questioning by Chaeiry), Destiny concludes that to assume any maliciousness form MrGirl in this instance would be unreasonable. | On October 16, 2022, Destiny and a panel of orbiters have a discussion on some drama involving [[Chaeiry]] and Mrgirl, as well as a "nuke" Lav wanted to drop on [[Hasan_Piker| Hasan]].<ref>Destiny Finally SNAPS, Almost Bans Entire Panel Addressing MrGirl False Allegations. (October 18, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 16, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-irtug0-WYE</ref> Chaeiry had thought MrGirl had intentionally lifted his shirt to flash his stomach/lower body, and tweeted out a #metoo style tweet alongside [[Stardust]] with regards to it. Chaeiry seeing the backlash towards her accusations, decided to speak with Destiny to get some clarification as to where she messed up. The two talks for a few minutes, and after some further discussion(and some rather aggressive questioning by Chaeiry), Destiny concludes that to assume any maliciousness form MrGirl in this instance would be unreasonable. | ||
[[File:LavBigPanel.png|200px|thumb|Right|The Panel hosted on Destiny's stream to discuss the MrGirl allegations(among several other topics). From left to right: Destiny, Zherka, Lav, Aba, Ahrelevant, Darius, Lycan.]] | |||
Later on in the day, [[Dan]] joins the call followed by Lav, [[Aba]], and Zherka. Lav brags about "being right" about Chaeiry's character, mentioning her toxicity and alleged mental illness, and defends MrGirl quite vehemently. Destiny takes issue with the harshness of Lav's criticisms, and the two discuss for some time. Throughout the conversation Lav derides Chaiery's character,insults her, and accuses her of betraying MrGirl's friendship and trust. The conversation goes on for about twenty minutes before the panel discusses sex work. Noticing a lull in the topics, [[Ahrelevant]] joins the call to debate with Lav about the ethicacy of online pornograophy, and her heavy-handedness during debates. This conversation quickly gets derailed as Darius enters the call to shout at Lav. | |||
The conversation becomes even more personal when Aba expresses his disdaine for Lav, calling her a version of Sneako with less charisma. He goes on to point to Lav's ability to take strong moral stances on topics she has no prior knowledge on, Lav takes issue with this and the two(along with Ahrel) discuss for some time. Shortly after this conversation, Lav alludes to a "nuke" on Hasan. Destiny stops her from dropping the nuke, stating she will end her whole career over this and that the allegations are not strong enough. Eventually Chaeiry joins the call to confront Lav, and the two argue for some time. MrGirl enters the call shortly after Chaeiry, and recreates the pose that was clipped. The setup he recreates the pose in has much better lighting, and shows that only his abdomen and love handles are visible(no pubes to be seen). | |||
Chaeiry and MrGirl debate for some time. Eventually Chaeiry agrees that MrGirl's lower back, and not his butt was shown. MrGirl, citing himself as being in survival mode, qualifies his defense by stating one should "believe all women" in these cases and acknowledges that Chaeiry may have felt uncomfortable. Naturally, the conversation shifts focus back to Lav(after she accuses Chaiery of lying) and Destiny is forced to explain to her what a lie is. While in the middle of defining what a lie is, Lav interrupts Destiny, he responds by calling her a "dumb bitch". Several more people interrupt Destiny, and he threatens to ban the entire panel. Destiny snaps once more, saying this whole situation is a nothing burger that nobody will remember, and that MrGirl should probably be going much harder on Chaeiry as a result of her actions. MrGirl eventually leaves, and the panel members then turn their attention to Lav and criticize her for treating Chaiery poorly during the discussion. Lav and Chaiery continue to argue about whether Chaiery lied, and in the end, Lav angrily exits the call. | |||
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* [https://youtu.be/-irtug0-WYE?t=2259 37:39] Ahrelevant joins the call to debate with Lav about the ethicacy of online pornograophy. Lav responds she does not have a position worked out yet and is still developing one. Ahrelevant then asks why Lav takes such a heavy handed approach when criticizing people during these debates. | * [https://youtu.be/-irtug0-WYE?t=2259 37:39] Ahrelevant joins the call to debate with Lav about the ethicacy of online pornograophy. Lav responds she does not have a position worked out yet and is still developing one. Ahrelevant then asks why Lav takes such a heavy handed approach when criticizing people during these debates. | ||
* [https://youtu.be/-irtug0-WYE?t=2778 46:18] Lav discusses a sextoy review she will offer on her Patreon as educational content for women. Ahrelevant acknowledges this, but points to other lewd images she offers on her Patreon and Twitter that are not explicitly educational. Lav responds that she believes those images are neutral, and she receives sexaul gratificaiton from uploading them. | * [https://youtu.be/-irtug0-WYE?t=2778 46:18] Lav discusses a sextoy review she will offer on her Patreon as educational content for women. Ahrelevant acknowledges this, but points to other lewd images she offers on her Patreon and Twitter that are not explicitly educational. Lav responds that she believes those images are neutral, and she receives sexaul gratificaiton from uploading them. | ||
* [https://youtu.be/-irtug0-WYE?t=3103 51:43] Darius screams at Lav to | * [https://youtu.be/-irtug0-WYE?t=3103 51:43] Darius joins the call and screams at Lav for a few minutes. | ||
* [https://youtu.be/-irtug0-WYE?t=3298 54:58] Aba speaks on his disdain for Lav. He describes Lav as a version of [[Sneako]] with less charisma. Lav takes issue with this, and she debates Abaa and Ahrel for some time. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/-irtug0-WYE?t=4401 1:13:21] Lav alludes to a Hasan "nuke" she wishes to drop. Destiny stops her before she can, stating she will end her whole career over this and that the allegations are not strong enough. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/-irtug0-WYE?t=4472 1:14:32] Chaeiry joins the call. She states Lav is as informed on her friendship with MrGirl as she is on the sex industry. The two debate for some time over the allegations. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/-irtug0-WYE?t=4929 1:22:09] MrGirl joins the call, and recreates the pose that was clipped. The setup he recreates the pose in has much better lighting, and shows that only his abdomen and love handles are visible. Chaeiry and MrGirl debate for some time. MrGirl, citing himself as being in survival mode, qualifies his defense by stating one should "believe all women" in these cases and acknowledges that Chaeiry may have felt uncomfortable. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/-irtug0-WYE?t=5936 1:38:56] Lav questions why none of the men in the call are confronting a women making false allegations. To which Destiny responds that Lav is a MrGirl simp, and hates Chaiery. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/-irtug0-WYE?t=7549 2:05:49] Destiny explains to Lav what a lie is, and calls Lav a dumb bitch when she interrupts him. Several more people interrupt Destiny, and he threatens to ban the entire panel. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/-irtug0-WYE?t=7798 2:09:58] Destiny says Chaeiry can make as many twitlongers as she wants about himself, nothing will come of it. He calls this whole situation a "nothing-burger" and says nobody will remember it. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/-irtug0-WYE?t=8214 2:16:54] MrGirl says this will be his final public appearance with Chaiery, and will no longer appear on streams with her again. He leaves shortly after stating this. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/-irtug0-WYE?t=8826 2:27:06] After several members on the panel point to Lav's poor treatment of CHaiery during the discussion(and many insults are thrown at CHaiery by Lav) she rage quits the panel. | |||
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Revision as of 13:22, 20 October 2023
Lea AKA LavLune is a singer, TikTok content creator, feminist and former OnlyFans content creator who spent some time as one of the most antagonistic orbiters to ever grace Destiny's stream.
On stream appearances with Destiny and dramas WIP
Destiny Moderates a debate between MrGirl and Lav
On June 12, 2022, Destiny reacted to a vod of Lav appearing on a call-in show hosted by MrGirl. During her call-in Lav debated topics involving gaslighting, boundaries, and abuse. The initial debate primarily centered around discussing what an individual should do if they heard their partner crying in another room. Lav was of the belief that when an individual feels themselves becoming emotionality dysregulated by an action their partner has done, and thinks they may lash out on their partner as a result of said action, the individual should self-regulate by taking a walk or creating some emotional/physical distance. MrGirl felt that such actions by an individual would make their partner feel abandoned, and that one should learn to emotionally regulate without withdrawing. Lav came away from the conversation feeling emotionality/physically frustrated, and even questioned if she was abusing her husband after hearing MrGirl's position.
While watching the debate, Destiny had trouble discerning what the two were actually debating about. He also noted that MrGirl never asked Lav any clarifying questions about her position, and was fairly aggressive throughout the conversation.
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After watching the vod, Destiny decided to invite Lav onto his stream to offer her some debate advice. Soon after, MrGirl joined the call, and Destiny moderated a debate between the two.[1] With Destiny's assistance, the two were able to clearly lay out their positions. Despite this, the debate still became quite heated, and both debaters maintained the same positions they entered the call with.
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Destiny reacts to a panel featuring Lav
On August 6, 2022, Chudlogic hosted a panel to discuss sex work and OnlyFans.[2] Among the guests on this panel included Merrick Deville, Wickedsupreme, and Lav. Destiny had chosen to watch this panel because he was interested in Lav's perspective as an individual who quit creating OnlyFans content as a result of her interactions with MrGirl.[3]
Lav confronts Destiny in a Pre-Panel debate
On August 7, 2022, Lav confronted Destiny in a Pre-Panel debate, suggesting he misunderstood the financial struggles of sex workers when comparing them to other professions like doctors.[4] The discussion explored the societal implications of sex work, particularly in platforms like OnlyFans, touching on subjects such as the dehumanization of women, unrealistic beauty standards, and societal consumption of explicit content. They debated the role of personal responsibility, with Lav emphasizing the potential negative impacts of sex work on society, while Destiny argued that the issue lies more with societal engagement and overindulgence in technology than with sex work itself.
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Lav debates sex work and ethics on a ChudLogic panel
On August 7, 2022 Lav joined Destiny, REDACTED, Sneako, and MrGirl, to discuss several topics including OnlyFans, sex work, AI porn, and Dogwarts.[5] Much like her prior appearances, Lav takes the position that sex work is a net-negative to society and should be heavily regulated. As there are multiple sex-workers(TafTaj and Jenavive) on the call, much contention arises. This conversation quickly becomes heated as multiple "shit-stirrers" are present in the call.
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Lav hashes out her personal grievances with several orbiters on Destiny's stream
On August 11, 2022, Lav confronted several orbiters on Destiny's stream for several hours to hash out some perceived personal grievances the individuals had with one another(primarily between Brittany and Lav).[6] The "panel" initially started as a one on one discussion between Destiny and Lav, wherein she had many negative things to say about Brittany Simon. The conversation quickly devolved into a shouting match as more orbiters elected to join the discord call, and known shit-stirrer REDACTED contributed to the chaos. During the conversation, Lav and MrGirl try to convince a very high Brittany that her method of operating her Patreon and the “levels" system she utilizes are harmful. However, the disparate ways in which MrGirl and Lav present their messages leads to conflict between the two. By the end of the conversation Lav agrees with Brittany that she is smart enough to know what she's doing, and is truthfully engaging in harm reduction(she likely states this to spite MrGirl).
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REDACTED discusses a leaked recording of Lav trash talking Destiny
On August 12, 2022, REDACTED shed some light on a leaked recording involving Lav.[7] [8] This conversation occurred on ChudLogic's channel, and lasted around sixteen minutes. The conversation begins with a content creator in Chud's community, Kuihman, alleging that Lav lied about an individual stalking, calling the FBI on her, and posting a photo of her house on a private server. This all occurred after Lav lead a harassment campaign against the individual's friends.
REDACTED, Chud, and Kuihman go on to listen to a leaked call wherein Lav stated that Destiny wanted to suck her husband's cock, and that she would never sleep with him. In the call, Lav calls Destiny a "cheese-boy", elf, and troll-man. REDACTED says there are two possibilities, either Destiny is joking or a coomer.
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Lav discusses allegations made against her in a ChudLogic panel
On August 14, 2022, Lav joined a ChudLogic panel to discuss allegations made against her, Destiny listened to the covnersation for half an hour before he got bored.[9][10] During the call Lav confronts Kuihman over some alleged discord harassment campaigns he and his friends had organized against her.
Lav dispels the rumors about Destiny asking to suck her husband's cock. She reasons that she was just bantering and says many absurd things in discord calls, like wanting to fuck dogs(her preference is a Doberman). Lav goes on to say she'd be open to having sex with Destiny despite her bantering in the leaked call. She also states that her and Destiny were friends several months before she started to stream, implying any claims of her "clout-sharking" to be absurd.
Lav discusses sex work and feminism with Destiny, debates pornography with Kai Clips
On September 12, 2022, Lav had a discussion with Destiny regarding Feminism, Sex work, and her discord ban from MrGirl's server. [11]
In the discussion, Lav expresses her mixed feelings towards radical-feminism, asserting her disagreement with many of its tenets but agreeing with some. She emphasizes her lack of concern for transwomen's feelings, specifically mentioning she doesn't care if they don't want to be referred to as male. She also criticizes transwomen for discussing feminist issues related to female socialization. Destiny challenges Lav's rhetoric, warning against taking more "provocative" positions that may lead to social media backlash and a toxic community.
Discussing feminism, Lav identifies her main issue with radical-feminism as its perceived masculinization of women. She labels herself a cultural feminist, aiming for a society that emphasizes women's inherent qualities. Destiny argues that Lav's views might stem from a previously unexamined life, making her vulnerable to new abstract concepts. He uses her relationship with her appearance and her previous OnlyFans involvement to illustrate his point.
On the topic of sex-work's morality, Destiny probes Lav about power imbalances in male-female sexual relations. Lav suggests casual sex should be restricted to friends. Regarding sex-work, she criticizes the harmful content in porn and its accessibility to children. Lav believes women can't give informed consent in the current scope of sex work, but she'd accept it in a perfectly equal society.
Near the end of their debate, Destiny points out that Lav tends to take very strong positions on topics, scream at people, act smug about it, and then will later say she never felt very strong about the topic to begin with. Lav responds that she has difficulty managing the line between being entertaining and nuanced, and says she will attempt to rectify this issue.
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During the same stream, Kai Clips joins the call to debate pornography with Lav. While both oppose pornographic content, Kai feels Lav doesn't articulate her stance well. The primary distinction is that Lav thinks pornographic content could exist in a scenario where parties give perfect consent, but Kai believes it shouldn't exist at all.
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Lav debates Trans issues with Destiny
On October 3, 2022, Lav debated Destiny on whether or not nonbinary trans people exist.[12] Destiny, through a good faith interpretation of Lav's position and some meaningful dialogue was able to move Lav towards a less extreme position.
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Destiny debates Lav and Zherka, featuring Chaeiry
On October 15, 2022 Destiny debated Lav and Zherka. Chaeiry eventually joined the call to discuss her annoyance with Lav.[13] The video starts with Lav talking about her new Patreon and her fallout with Chaeiry. Lav claims that Chaeiry "farmed" people against her, labeled her as racist, and obsessively responded to her content. Because Chaeiry was reviewing them, Lav made her vods private. Later, she shares that her experience in MrGirl's community made her strongly against sex work, and she expresses concern about the backlash from changing her stance. Destiny tells her that it's okay for her to change her views occasionally but advises her to avoid making strong statements throughout the process. Lav takes issue with this accusation, and the two debate for some time. Zherka eventually joins the conversation, sparking a debate about the femininity of men and what women genuinely seek in men.
Some time after Lav disconnects, Chaeiry joins the call to discuss the things Lav had said. She shows Destiny a clip of Lav on a political panel, wherein Lav calls herself "black and slow"(she plays this off as a Jesse Lee Peterson quote). Chaeiry's primary issue is Lav making racial jokes in the presence of several racist individuals.
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Destiny shouts at Lav in a panel addressing MrGirl allegations by Chaeiry WIP
On October 16, 2022, Destiny and a panel of orbiters have a discussion on some drama involving Chaeiry and Mrgirl, as well as a "nuke" Lav wanted to drop on Hasan.[14] Chaeiry had thought MrGirl had intentionally lifted his shirt to flash his stomach/lower body, and tweeted out a #metoo style tweet alongside Stardust with regards to it. Chaeiry seeing the backlash towards her accusations, decided to speak with Destiny to get some clarification as to where she messed up. The two talks for a few minutes, and after some further discussion(and some rather aggressive questioning by Chaeiry), Destiny concludes that to assume any maliciousness form MrGirl in this instance would be unreasonable.
Later on in the day, Dan joins the call followed by Lav, Aba, and Zherka. Lav brags about "being right" about Chaeiry's character, mentioning her toxicity and alleged mental illness, and defends MrGirl quite vehemently. Destiny takes issue with the harshness of Lav's criticisms, and the two discuss for some time. Throughout the conversation Lav derides Chaiery's character,insults her, and accuses her of betraying MrGirl's friendship and trust. The conversation goes on for about twenty minutes before the panel discusses sex work. Noticing a lull in the topics, Ahrelevant joins the call to debate with Lav about the ethicacy of online pornograophy, and her heavy-handedness during debates. This conversation quickly gets derailed as Darius enters the call to shout at Lav.
The conversation becomes even more personal when Aba expresses his disdaine for Lav, calling her a version of Sneako with less charisma. He goes on to point to Lav's ability to take strong moral stances on topics she has no prior knowledge on, Lav takes issue with this and the two(along with Ahrel) discuss for some time. Shortly after this conversation, Lav alludes to a "nuke" on Hasan. Destiny stops her from dropping the nuke, stating she will end her whole career over this and that the allegations are not strong enough. Eventually Chaeiry joins the call to confront Lav, and the two argue for some time. MrGirl enters the call shortly after Chaeiry, and recreates the pose that was clipped. The setup he recreates the pose in has much better lighting, and shows that only his abdomen and love handles are visible(no pubes to be seen).
Chaeiry and MrGirl debate for some time. Eventually Chaeiry agrees that MrGirl's lower back, and not his butt was shown. MrGirl, citing himself as being in survival mode, qualifies his defense by stating one should "believe all women" in these cases and acknowledges that Chaeiry may have felt uncomfortable. Naturally, the conversation shifts focus back to Lav(after she accuses Chaiery of lying) and Destiny is forced to explain to her what a lie is. While in the middle of defining what a lie is, Lav interrupts Destiny, he responds by calling her a "dumb bitch". Several more people interrupt Destiny, and he threatens to ban the entire panel. Destiny snaps once more, saying this whole situation is a nothing burger that nobody will remember, and that MrGirl should probably be going much harder on Chaeiry as a result of her actions. MrGirl eventually leaves, and the panel members then turn their attention to Lav and criticize her for treating Chaiery poorly during the discussion. Lav and Chaiery continue to argue about whether Chaiery lied, and in the end, Lav angrily exits the call.
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Destiny confronts Lav after reacting to her talking about him on other streams WIP
On October 23, 2022, after watching several clips of Lav speaking about him on other streams, Destiny decided to confront her.[15]
Orbiter Civil War AKA Lav and 12 other orbiters yell at each other WIP
On October 24, 2022, Lav and several other orbiters held a discussion for several hours on Destiny's stream.[16][17]
Destiny reacts to an emotional Lav stream WIP
On October 29, 2022, Destiny reacted to an emotional stream featuring Lav.[18]
Notable Clips, videos, logs, and tweets WIP
External Links
References
- ↑ Destiny Moderates MrGirl vs Lav Debate (Gaslighting, Boundaries, Abuse). (August 9, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 6, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcARJDJ4y6k
- ↑ OnlyFans Stars CLASH, Panel GANGS UP on Ex-Model! (August 11, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 4, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soU9GwCv5Cc
- ↑ 2022-08-06|P1 Reacting to ChudLogic panel about sex work and OnlyFans; viewer call-ins. (September 4, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 4, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_l0fADhOZ0&t=2541s
- ↑ “Destiny Has A Big Problem With Me” Ex-Sex Worker CONFRONTS Destiny In Pre-Panel Debate. (August 7, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 4, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqSHS5ncGsQ
- ↑ Destiny, REDACTED & MrGirl Bully S*x Workers for 4 Hours. (August 9, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 5, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhljHCOOC08
- ↑ PURE CHAOS | Destiny, Lav, Brittany, MrGirl & Redacted | Drama Panel. (August 11, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 5, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zH6yO_16lM
- ↑ REDACTED Sheds Light on LEAKED RECORDING of Lavlune TRASHING Destiny! (Private S*X Info Leaked?). (August 13, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 6, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLK6Z4iRqL4
- ↑ THE E-GIRL EXORCISM - SHOCKING LAVLUNE REVELATIONS. (August 11, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 10, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egyuwjqEXNw
- ↑ Lavlune BACKSTABS Destiny, LIES About STALKER & Gets ATTACKED By Obsessed 4Channer. (August 15, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 6, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4bsurH_FC4
- ↑ 2022-08-14|P1 Destiny was rude to F&F producer; talk w/ Aba about Fresh & Fit, Sneako. (August 19, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 11, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWCDIoM-Ppc
- ↑ 2022-09-11|P2 Talk w/ Lav about sex work, Lav’s beliefs; KaiClips and Lav debate pornography. (September 12, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 11, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3iIvcBoZ3g
- ↑ Destiny Actually Convinces Her To Concede A Trans Debate. (October 5, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 11, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH8iFzeEMa8
- ↑ Destiny Gets Triggered Into A Debate w/ Lav And Zherka ft. Chaeiry. (October 15, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 16, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myPGy1WNvx8
- ↑ Destiny Finally SNAPS, Almost Bans Entire Panel Addressing MrGirl False Allegations. (October 18, 2022). www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 16, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-irtug0-WYE
- ↑ Destiny Finally Takes Gloves Off, Debate Ends In TEARS. (October 25, 2022). Www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 17, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y6DDtjM3cY
- ↑ Destiny Orbiter Civil War | PRELUDE. (October 26, 2022). Www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 17, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLn43h5JzNA
- ↑ Destiny. (2022). Aba CONFRONTS Destiny, Triggers MELTDOWN 13 Person Debate | CIVIL WAR. In YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX7Y8O4FbzI
- ↑ I Asked My Therapist About Destiny. (October 29, 2022). Www.youtube.com. Retrieved October 17, 2023, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1qqxb_v1GE