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Pxie is a Puerto Rican-American livestreamer and political commentator. She first appeared on stream with Destiny during a Mindwaves debate panel to discuss the justifiability of edgy language in private. Since that debate, Pxie has occasionally appeared on Destiny's stream to discuss hot-button political/social issues, and participate in informal conversations with Destiny regarding on-stream events.

Pxie was nominated for the 2023 Destiny Award for Buddy of the Year, and the 2019 Destiny Award for Ally of the Year.

Political Advocacy

Although Pxie's on-stream interactions and debates with Destiny have been infrequent as of late, she has played an active role in political advocacy initiatives by DGG. This role has included participating in DGG canvassing campaigns, and assisting in on-stream election coverage with Destiny.

Notable On Stream Appearances with Destiny

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"I've never been more gaslit in my entire life..." - Destiny Debate ft. Hasanabi, TheSerfsTV, & More

Main Article: "I've never been more gaslit in my entire life..." - Destiny Debate ft. Hasanabi, TheSerfsTV, & More

On October 22, 2019 Pxie participated in a political panel hosted by MindWaves. The panel featured Destiny, Hasan Piker, TheSerfsTV (AKA Lance), Ahrelevant, Bastiat, Kormantine and Cole James Cash. Four topics were discussed during the panel, among those topics included a recent Canadian Election, usage of the n-word in private, the 2020 Democratic primary, and Mark Zuckerberg's secret meetings with Conservatives. The second topic, usage of the n-word in private, took up the bulk of the podcast's time and was by far the most tumultuous of the topics discussed.

Throughout the discussion, Pxie aligned more closely with those critical of Destiny's use of edgy language in private. Like others on the panel, she believed that Destiny's public acknowledgment of using such language in private undermined his stance on the harmful nature of "edgy words." That said, Pxie's neutral approach to engaging with Destiny's position, combined with her overall kinder demeanor, fostered a more constructive exchange of ideas compared to the more confrontational tone adopted by some of the other panelists.

Timestamps: Pxie

32:50 Pxie chimes in, and asks Destiny why he believes saying the n-word isn't racist. Destiny responds that as a public figure, he does not platform language that is harmful or further entrenches groups of people. Destiny continues, explaining that when in private and surrounded by individuals he is sure are not racist, there are "edgy" jokes involving racist terms he would be comfortable making(e.g. jokes from a George Carlin Skit, or a Boondocks episode). Pxie retorts that Destiny saying he states these jokes in private to the public, defeats the purpose of Destiny's stance on racist words. Destiny counters that he never repeats these "private jokes" to the public, as such, it would not nullify any public stance he takes on such terms. 36:48 Pxie remarks that Destiny does not typically debate to change individuals minds, but is mainly trying to suey the audience. Destiny agrees. 59:21 The panel attempts to give Pxie an opportunity to speak on the subject, and Kormantine states she should not speak on the manner because she's not black. Despite this, Pxie is given the opportunity to speak anyways. She states that Destiny admitting to saying the n-word in private defeats the purpose of his stance as it might normalize such racially charged language for individuals in his audience. She continues, arguing that individuals may not always know if someone is making a joke or not when saying the n-word. 1:01:16 Destiny asks Pxie if she believes that rape-kinks are okay . She argues there's a clear difference, as individuals with a rape-fetish possess a mutually consenting fetish. Destiny counters that there is no true difference, as such edgy-jokes would only be shared with individuals he knows are not racist, in the same way individuals who share a "rape-kink" would know they're not actually engaging in rape. 1:04:43 Following Cole's departure, and Mindwaves becoming irate, Kormantine asks Mindwaves how he can be upset at Cole for being made to debate such a sensitive topic. He continues, arguing it is toxic to have African Americans come into a conversation such as this and "prove themselves". Mindwaves retorts that Cole wanted to have this conversation, and therefore had no right to complain about the presence of the topic. 1:06:32 Kormantine argues he would be able to have a discussion on this topic with Ahrelevant given that he is a fellow African American. He continues, asserting that white people are unable to be challenged by African Americans without getting frustrated. Destiny retorts that it is disgusting for Kormantine to "even pretend" that such grievances are even mildly related to the topic at hand. 1:07:05 Ahrelevant points out that Kormantine has told Pxie to be quiet several times throughout the podcast. Kormantine reiterates that anybody who is not black should not voice their opinion on this subject. 1:37:42 Pxie reiterates her belief that Destiny's stating his use of the word in private to the public is counterproductive. The two deliberate for some time. 2:10:15 Pxie argues the n-word should probably not be used in private or public, nor say that it's used in private. 2:53:56 Pxie addresses the race-play comparison. She admits to finding race-play to being "very sketch". 3:02:51 Destiny points out that the two "pro-private language people"(himself and Ahrel) were the only ones who allowed Pxie to speak, meanwhile Kormantine, Cole, and Hasan took every opportunity to shut her down.

Dehumanization & Edgy Jokes - Destiny Discusses ft. Pxie

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"Dehumanization & Edgy Jokes - Destiny Discusses ft. Pxie

On October 25, 2019, Pxie and Destiny discussed the implications of edgy humor(specifically those containing racial slurs), and it's role in causing individuals to feel dehumanized. This conversation was brought on following the duo's difficulties in having a meaningful engagement on the same topic during a Mindwaves debate panel.

During the conversation, Pxie asserts that society(even within an egoist framework) should strive to eliminate oppression and dehumanization, as such systems ultimately work to harm all individuals within society. She extends this reasoning to argue against the private use of racial slurs or edgy language, asserting that such behavior can perpetuate the harmful subconscious biases inherent in all individuals, and cause those minorities whom the slurs are directed at to feel "otherized". In response, Destiny acknowledges that racial humor or edgy language can, at times, reinforce subconscious biases, especially when espoused by individuals without a formal understanding of their harmful nature. However, he maintains that individuals who are fully aware of the harm such language can cause may be able to engage with it without falling victim to those subconscious pitfalls.

After an hour discussing the topic, Destiny and Pxie ultimately reach an impasse, with Destiny offering to reassess his view entirely if Pxie were to provide studies pointing to otherwise non-racist individuals beginning to develop racist thoughts upon hearing a slur. Following this, the two depart from the call amicably.

Timestamps

0:52 Pxie shares a work-in-process flowchart and write-up she created in preparation for this discussion. 2:13 Despite not agreeing with egoism , Pxie states she intends to argue within it's framework. Pxie explains that as an egoist, one would want society to “get better” as it would benefit oneself. Pxie asserts that society should seek to eliminate unfair treatment of minorities and oppressed people, as such treatment would lead to marginalization, more crime, and less opportunity. Pxie concludes that all these things would hurt oneself in the long-run if left unaddressed, and therefore an egoist should seek to minimize harm towards these groups. Destiny responds that he agrees with this statement. 3:21 Pxie explains that if one seeks to achieve a better society(as described in the prior bullet point), one should do whatever one can to combat these systems of oppression. Destiny agrees, but asserts that the cost of enacting such harm-reduction should not overtly harm oneself. He provides the example of white people killing themselves in the effort of reducing harm towards minorities. Pxie agrees. 4:26 Pxie provides her definition of "dehumanization". She defines it as the process of depriving a person or a group of people from positive qualities and "otherizing" individuals. Pxie goes on to explain that a racial slur can contribute to this dehumanization, as it makes an individual feel excluded or demeaned on the basis of their race/ethnicity/nationality. Destiny cautiously agrees with this, explaining that this may be the case for the outset of a racial slur as an unintended consequence. Pxie agrees with Destiny. 5:32 Pxie circles to her primary argument: Destiny should not use edgy-language containing racial slurs in private. 6:56 Pxie states what she believes to be Destiny's position: Using edgy-language/racial slurs for "shock value" is not actual racism if one is not a racist. Destiny agrees, and argues that one could theoretically use a slur in certain contexts without necessarily harming the group the slur is directed at. 8:17 Pxie provides her rebuttal to Destiny's argument: She asserts that the continuation of such edgy-jokes/racial humour, even in private, can lend credence to the subconscious biases inherent in all individuals. 9:00 Destiny offers his perspective: Engaging in humour containing racial elements may reinforce subconscious biases present in some individuals, or even create those biases in some cases. He provides the example of somebody spending time on 4chan eventually becoming racist following their engagement with several jokes directed towards black people. Destiny posits that it is possible for and individual to reach a "level of cognition" relevant to this type of humour, where engagement with the subject matter could be done without giving rise to any implicit biases. Destiny provides himself as an example, explaining that he is very aware of the background as to why certain slurs are harmful, and therefore anyone with such knowledge would be able to engage in racial humour without being subconsciously influenced. 10:29 Pxie argues Destiny's position is more idealistic than pragmatic, and argues nobody is immune to these subconscious biases. Pxie argues the only way one would be able to determine if they were immune to these biases is if they were to take a series of scientifically valid subconscious testings. She posits even an individual who frequently takes part in pro-minority rallies has the propensity to fall victim to their subconscious bias. 12:09 Destiny argues a "harm" is committed when one loses access to certain forms of humour. Destiny defines "harm" as somebody losing access to a pleasurable thing. 13:17 Destiny posits a hypothetical to Pxie: Two individuals are identical in all measurable societal behaviors—how they treat minorities, how they vote, and how they interact with others—but differ internally. However, one person harbors implicit biases but is self-aware enough to check and manage them, while the other does not have these biases at all. Are these people significantly different? Pxie answers in the affirmative, arguing there is a difference. 13:57 Pxie argues that Destiny's hypothetical being dependent on the ability for an individual to "check" their subconscious biases makes his hypothetical unrealistic and impractical. Destiny counters that one could be able to address their subconscious biases through "checking" themselves, and explains the Cognitive Behavior Therapy model to Pxie:Thoughts can happen without our control, but we can choose how we respond to those facts. 15:05 Pxie argues that while Destiny may be able to check his subconscious bias when making such jokes, the individuals who hear the jokes may not be able to do so. Destiny disagrees, and argues that individuals(especially friends) can generally have a good understanding of what the thoughts are of the people around them. Destiny argues that if one can trust a doctor not to perform sexual acts on them when they're unconscious for surgery, one should be able to trust certain individuals in their friend group to not be racists. 17:19 While Pxie agrees with Destiny's general position, she argues that one would have to take a big gamble when telling edgy jokes pertaining to marginalized/oppressed groups. She further asserts that the small loss of humour one would feel by not telling these jokes is marginal compared to the reinforcement of these oppressive structures towards minorities. 18:16 Destiny responds, arguing that while he understands Pxie's perspective the biggest strength of his own perspective is that he is able to draw a line to determine "what is responsible"(i.e. private setting with individuals once can trust to not be racist). 18:42 Destiny argues that the logical conclusion to Pxie's perspective may do more harm than good. He explains that by her logic, even using a slur in "okay" contexts, the word's utterance would still contribute to the oppression of minorities. He argues by this logic, black people should never be allowed to say the n-word themselves, even in rap songs. 19:41 Pxie argues the "n-word" takes on a whole different meaning when a white person uses it versus when a black person uses it due to historical context. Destiny agrees, but argues if one cannot trust somebody to know if they're fostering racist attitudes as a result of using the word, how can the average white person understand a black person's usage of the word? 20:44 Pxie argues that "reclaiming the word" for black people is a form of counter-acting these oppressive systems. Destiny counters that black people using the n-word in raps and pop culture doesn't necessarily seem like an effective means of counteracting these oppressive systems compared to simply refraining from using the word. Destiny once again asserts that black people using the word would easily be misconstrued by white people. 23:48 Destiny reiterates the confusion that may arise by some people being allowed to use slurs while others cannot. 25:54 Destiny argues that usage of a slur can lead to dehumanizing thoughts. 28:14 Destiny points to an acceptable usage of a slur: Highlighting how stupid a person is for using it. Pxie asks if Destiny is making himself the punchline when using the n-word in private and asks Destiny to provide an example. Destiny provides an example of a South Park skit. 31:33 Destiny provides an example of a use of a joke containing a slur he would not be comfortable with. 33:34 Pxie argues one could make the jokes provided by Destiny without using the exact slur, and lose nothing of value. Destiny counters that such a mindset would lead to the removal of satire, given we could never trust anybody to not give into their subconscious biases. The two discuss examples for some time. 40:43 Destiny argues one could have a problematic engagement with some forms of media like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia , particularly the anti-vax episode. 45:46 Destiny provides the example of a joke Chris Rock could tell in private, but would not tell to the public. He argues Chris Rock telling that joke among friends would be less detrimental to society than if he were to tell it in public, as less people would be libel to construe the joke in a poor manner. 50:12 Destiny argues that private usage of racial humor among trusted individuals minimizes the potential for harm compared to public usage, which can lead to misinterpretation and unintended reinforcement of stereotypes. 1:00:07 Pxie and Destiny discuss examples of shows like The Boondocks, with Destiny arguing that satirical usage of slurs can often serve as a critique of societal issues. Destiny tempers this statement and admits that such language can still lead to misinterpretation by certain audiences. 1:10:12 Pxie claims to be aware of studies that show how slurs or stereotypes can influence implicit bias and public perception, even if the intent was not harmful. 1:15:07 Destiny expresses his interest in seeing studies as to how slurs could influence individuals racial views. 1:19:24 Destiny admits that while it's possible for individuals to interpret media the "wrong way", he is uncomfortable with removing all satire from society in this regard. 1:35:54 Pxie and Destiny reach an impasse.

Free Will vs Determinism - Destiny Debates Pxie

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"Free Will vs Determinism - Destiny Debates Pxie

On October 29, 2019, Pxie and Destiny deliberated on the dichotomy between free will and determinism. The majority of the conversation was conducted in an interview-like fashion by Pxie, and eventually progressed into a formal debate on the subject.

During the discussion, Destiny argued in favor of pre-determinism. While he acknowledged the probabilistic behavior of a particle's location in quantum mechanics as a potential gray area, he maintains that this uncertainty does not fully substantiate the existence of "true" randomness. He goes on to posit that the entire universe is predetermined, and that even in cases where true-randomness were discovered, the concept of free will would likely remain a fiction. Conversely, Pxie argued in favor of free-will, and pointed to the evolutionary development of consciousness as evidence. The two ultimately spend some time discussing the "illusion of free will"(with some illustrative assistance through microsoft paint), before Pxie expresses the need to think on the subject some more. Following this, the two depart from the call amicably.

Let's say that I have a ball that goes around, and it can pick up either red things or blue things. Let's say red things are better for it than blue things right? Let's say that this ball goes through the environment, picks up some red things, picks up some blue things, it's getting harmed by the blue things. Well maybe I say, okay well hold on, this is actually crucial that I endow this ball with the ability to choose between like red things or blue things. So I'm gonna give it the ability to choose between red or blue. I can set it forward on a path, and like that whole path could theoretically be predetermined even though it's been given that choice because now it'll just head towards the red things rather than the blue things.

— Destiny explaining "the illusion" of free will.

Timestamps

1:18 Pxie offers to discus egoism, Destiny agrees. Pxie then asks Destiny if he believes "wanting things" is inherently selfish, and Destiny answers in the affirmative arguing "wanting something" for oneself is a fairly self-centered idea. 2:24 Pxie asks Destiny if wanting for food would be considered selfish, Destiny answers in the affirmative. Pxie decides that they should spend some time defining what the word "selfish" means. 3:46 Destiny defines egoism as "everyone doing something stemming from their own benefit" or "things stem from people's desires". Pxie describes her "beef" with egoism being that she can't fully grasp the concept that having a desire is inherently selfish. 4:56 Destiny explains that he is anti-realist with regards to morals. He continues, arguing that "what people want" can easily be determined by their circumstances/denvironment(aka people are a victim of their circumstances): "If you put people in predictable environments you can get predictable people"(e.g. putting a bunch of people in the ghetto will likely not yield a bunch of business people). Destiny compounds this to explain his deference towards egoism: People have a set of desires that they seek to fulfill, you can then analyze people's desires and why they desire them, from there one can provide better descriptive powers as to how people will act or change their behavior in the future. 5:52 Pxie asks Destiny if he would consider egoism to be a selfish ideology. Destiny answers yes, but explains he is answering without all the "morally loaded connotations" typically attached to the word "selfish". Destiny offers to change the word "selfish" to "self-driven", and Pxie accepts the replacement. 7:17 Destiny describes all of meta-ethics as "bullshit", and anyone's meta-ethics position is likely post-hoc rationalized. He goes on to describe his metaethics position as: "People have desires that they want to fulfill". 8:30 Pxie asks Destiny if he believes morality is derived from emotion, Destiny answers in the affirmative. Destiny provides an example: "When someone says killing is wrong [what they really mean is] I don't like killing". 9:33 Pxie explains her feeling that when most people refer to egoism, they speak on it from a mindset where they believe people are performing actions expecting some reward or a good feeling afterwards. Pxie provides the example of individuals with ADHD struggling to do tasks like homework and will prioritize things that give them less of a reward like video games. Destiny provides a steelman to individuals taking issue with Pxie's statement: mental illness would likely not factor into this conversation as these individuals would be outliers. He provides the example of someone with Parkinson's spilling coffee on their grandma not being a preference. 12:16 Pxie asks Destiny if he believes in pre-determinism. Destiny answers in the affirmative, and posits there likely are some exceptions on a quantum level. 13:10 Pxie asks Destiny why he believes "Quantum mechanics" isn't enough to tear apart pre-determinism. Destiny explains that there are many interpretations of Quantum mechanics that don't actually call for true randomness to exist(e.g. wave functions express probabilities of particles, and they appear random to us just because we lack the sufficient ability to measure their location). Destiny explains that while he doesn't have a sufficient level of expertise to fully realize this argument, he can understand that we speak in probabilities for this particular scenario as we don't know where the particle will truly lie in space. 15:42 Pxie asks Destiny if he believes determinism would be a "thing" if true randomness was discovered. Destiny answers that while determinism would cease to exist if true randomness were discovered, free will would likely never be a "thing". He explains that human beings would never have the ability to consciously collapse wave functions, or exert pressure over the existence of wave functions in our brains. Pxie replies that she needs to read more on the subject. 16:28 Destiny asks Pxie if she knows the difference between physicalism and materialism. Pxie responds in the affirmative, but notes it's been some time. Destiny explains that the only way Pxie would be able to do free will arguments, is by arguing for some time about a non-physical or immaterial entity. As arguing for free will from a materialistic point of view would require one to "break reality". 17:41 Destiny provides the example of rolling a rock down a hill, and being able to 100% measure where the rock will land every time. He compares this to the human experience. 18:29 Pxie states that from an evolutionary perspective everything humans possesses comes for a reason. Destiny informs Pxie she needs to be careful with her language, and draws from his experience debating race-realists. He explains that it would be better to state that evolution is descriptive rather than done with a specific intent. Destiny goes on to describe the possible reasons explaining why women developed breasts, or why humans have a "blind spot" in their eyes. 23:23 Pxie expresses her confusion with Destiny going from "some traits just happen to survive" to "there's no reason for anything". Destiny replies that he meant "things don't happen for a reason". Pxie apologizes again for being confused, and Destiny says she's fine. 23:46 Pxie contends that if nothing happens for a reason evolution wouldn't be a thing. Destiny identifies that Pxie's confusion lies in the word "reason". Destiny explains that when he says "nothing happens for a reason" he means things just exist, and that things happen, but there is no greater plan in place. 24:38 Pxie points out that white squirrels may have the ability to survive in the winter better compared to brown squirrels, and Destiny identifies this as a type of evolutionary "reason". 24:52 Pxie asks what the evolutionary reason to choose and have a conscious would be. Destiny explains that things can be predetermined and arise for a reason. Destiny identifies what Pxie is asking: "Why does something need a justification for something else if everything is predetermined". Destiny argues that these two things are not related to one another, and that one could have something that is predetermined and still have explanations for how things work. 25:37 Pxie once again points to consciousness as evidence for predetermination, and Destiny counters that individuals do not really make "choices". Pxie argues that we would never have developed a conscious to begin with if this was the case, as the reason it was developed was to give us the ability to choose. Destiny counters once again that all of our choices are theoretically pre-determined. 26:22 Destiny argues that if one has a ball that goes around and can either pick up red things or blue things. If the red things harm the ball, he explains he should give the ball tithe ability to choose between red things and blue things. Destiny argues that he could set a ball on a path, and that path would technically be predetermined as we know it would avoid all red things. Pxie is slightly confused by the example and Destiny clarifies for some time. 28:44 Destiny draws a picture to clarify his position. 30:21 Pxie draws a picture to clarify her position. Pxie asks how the path can be predetermined if the ball can take on multiple paths. Destiny explains that the scenario is predetermined as the ball is only choosing rainbow paths. 34:13 Pxie asks Destiny if he's an atheist. Destiny answers yes.

Destiny debates Pxie about her tweets ft. Mindwaves

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Debating Pxie about her tweets ft. MindWavesTV

On March 18, 2020 Pxie, Destiny, and Mindwaves held a brief debate on the electability of Democratic Candidate frontrunner Joe Biden , and the implications of populist rhetoric in U.S. politics. The conversation arose as a result of several tweets from Pxie expressing her concern that Republican incumbent Donald Trump's populist appeal, bolstered by policies like suspending evictions and providing cash stimulus, could lead to his reelection(which she perceives as a pathway to fascism).

Pxie argues that Trump's support of these populist measures may attract former Bernie Sanders supporters, thereby undermining any chance of Joe Biden, unseating Trump during the next election cycle. Destiny and Mindwaves counter that these voters would likely bleed off anyway by nature of the primary system, and that Biden's ability to unite a broad coalition(particularly through his support among African American voters and his focus on pragmatic progressivism) would also be to his benefit. Furthermore, they contend that Trump's economic policies are superficially populist, and lack a substantive progressive intent that would meaningfully sway non-online left-leaning voters.

At one point during the conversation, Destiny laments how individuals on the left consistently eschew all forms of identity politics in favor of preaching about about "class", and act surprised when individuals move to Trump after he adopts a few progressive economic policies. Pxie argues that they should be concerned about this trend, to which Destiny explains that this trend is precisely the reason he "shits on" socialists like Hasan Piker and Kyle Kulinski. Destiny explains that most Democrats are generally on board with identity politics, but it's only the "most online' individuals on the left who reduce everything to class who are in danger of shifting towards supporting Trump.

Timestamps

0:08 Pxie explains why she's been tweeting some "crazy shit". 2:17 Pxie asserts that the reelection of trump could be a pathway to fascism. Destiny responds. 8:11 Pxie expresses her concern that some individuals who voted for Bernie Sanders may vote for Trump. Destiny argues that this would likely happen by nature of the US having a primary system. Pxie once again expresses her concern with populist Bernie Sanders supporting shifting to Donald Trump as a result of his support for suspending evictions and providing cash stimulus, to which Destiny argues that populism is "brain rot". 11:49 Mindwaves joins the call 17:31 Mindwaves takes issue with Pxie's phrasing when saying she'd "probably vote for Biden". The group discusses for some time, Pxie eventually agrees that she erroneously used the word probably. 20:12 Destiny argues that the US will likely not fall prey to nazi-ism just because Trump has done a few economic stimulus initiatives that appeal to populists. 23:45 Pxie laments how the right tends to fall in line with one another while the left tends to self-cannibalize. Destiny argues this is simply a result of the Democratic party being in primary season. Pxie questions if people would fall in line with a candidate like Bernie Sanders, Destiny replies yes if his approval rating was high enough. 25:24 Pxie jokingly asks "So how's my twitter?" 26:43 Pxie reiterates her concern about Trump being a fascist and the damage he could do with another presidency(even if he adopts UBI and medicare for all). Destiny responds that her primary concern in this case would be identity politics. Destiny laments how individuals on the left constantly eschew all forms of identity politics and prefer to talk about "class", and act surprised when individuals move to Trump after he adopts a few progressive economic policies. Pxie argues that they should be concerned about this trend, to which Destiny explains that this is precisely the reason he "shits on" socialists. Destiny explains that most Democrats are generally on board with identity politics, but it's only the "most online' individuals on the left who reduce everything to class and don't truly care about the poor outcomes as a result of a Trump presidency. 29:18 Destiny argues there is not much difference between Trump and Bernie in terms of protectionist policies. Mindwaves argues that the methods these two individuals approach these issues vary. 30:49 Pxie asks if Mindwaves and Destiny are worried about Trump's adoption of some economic left-leaning policy, and if the DNC is doing enough to court voters based off economic policy and identity politics. 35:23 Pxie worries that people will lose faith in American elections if candidates are unable to deliver on campaign promises. Destiny replies that it is often quite difficult for candidates to deliver on campaign promises, even despite their best attempts. He points to the fact that Obama had difficulty passing the Affordable Care Act even with a Congress in his favor for two years. 37:56 Destiny and Pxie discuss voter turnout. 42:10 Pxie points out that voters who are 35 years old and younger tend to support Sanders over Biden, and asks what can be done to bridge that divide. Destiny replies that nothing can likely be done at this time as young people simply don't vote. 44:36 Pxie argues there may be an independent "bend" towards Bernie Sanders. Destiny denies its existence, and argues that the goal should be to appeal to voters who previously voted for Obama and desire a "return to normalcy".

Pxie vs Mindwaves: Bernie or Bust and Twitter beef

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Mindwaves vs Pxie is Pxie bernie or bust, reactionary

On April 1, 2020, Pxie and Mindwaves had a heated confrontation on Destiny's stream. The two were primarily irked at each other over a prior debate regarding the efficacy of the Democratic party and some interactions on Twitter which occurred following the debate.

During the conversation, Mindwaves accuses Pxie of being a "philosophy bro", espousing rhetoric in line with Fox News , and taking things personally during their debates. Conversely, Pxie accuses Mindwaves of cowardly subtweeting her following the debate, mischaracterizing her arguments, and showcasing an overall poor engagement with the subject they had debated. While Pxie and Mindwaves spent nearly an hour deliberating the topic on stream, it was seemingly to no avail as both individuals were irate at each other from the start, and became even more angry as the conversation wore on.

Timestamps

14:25 Mindwaves mocks a dating podcast Pxie hosted, and discusses an earlier argument he had on twitter with her. 20:32 Destiny admits that moonmoon is a god gamer. 22:34 Pxie appears in chat, eventually hops into voice chat. Pxie asks: "is there anything to talk about that hasn't already been said?" Mindwaves responds: "Yeah maybe your lies Pxie." 23:54 Pxie joins the call. Mindwaves and her immediately start fighting. Pxie accuses Mindwaves of subtweeting her, and Mindwaves accuses Pxie of taking things too personally and lying. 25:22 Pxie asserts that she was forced to take screenshots of their messages because Mindwaves was being weasilly. She goes on to accuse Mindwaves of being cowardly by not directly tagging her with his criticism. 27:45 Harkening back to an earlier conversation, Mindwaves accuses Pxie of doing the work of Fox news. Pxie takes issue with this criticism, and argues she was simply stating that the Democratic party "losing the optics game" to Trump(with regards to Universal Basic Income) would be bad for the party. 29:10 Pxie argues that stating Bernie Sanders is not socialist is not doing the work of Fox news. Mindwaves says he tired of this debate, and Pxie demands for Mindwaves to stop subtweeting her. 30:33 Mindwaves accuses Pxie of training with Rem before the conversation, Pxie denies doing so, and argues that they were talking about morality in general. She goes on to explain that she refrained from using any of the same arguments she worked out with Rem in their debate. 32:19 Mindwaves states that his primary issue with Pxie was that she was talking with Rem when their debate was supposed to be occurring. Pxie accuses mindwaves of saying "2v1 bring rem in" after Mindwaves repeatedly denies wanting to talk to rem. 33:13 Pxie lambasts Mindwaves for saying he has to put the "kid gloves" on whenever they have a conversation. Mindwaves counters that he constantly has to worry about hurting Pxie's feelings or her taking things personally. Pxie asserts that Mindwaves is the only one who has levied this accusation towards her after a debate, and that he's miscategorizing her. 34:08 Pxie asks Mindwaves why he thinks she sounds like "fox news". Mindwaves doubles down, to which Pxie replies: "Does fox news talk about Trump being a fascist?". Pxie requests for Mindwaves to stop subtweeting her and start @ing her instead. Mindwaves asks when the last time he subtweeted her was, Pxie says yesterday, Mindwaves asks for proof. Pxie provides the proof and Mindwaves responds "Yeah that was one of two subtweets". Destiny can be seen throwing his head back laughing on stream. 36:09 Mindwaves states he was trying to have a serious conversation while Pxie was trying to have a philosophical one. Pxie accuses Mindwaves of mischaracterizing her arguments once again. 36:57 Mindwaves claims they never left "square one" during their debate with regards to the definition of "rights". Pxie claims they did agree, Mindwaves reiterates that they did not, and Mindwaves requests for Pxie to shut the fuck up. Pxie refuses, Mindwaves asks Pxie why she'd want to have this conversation if she refuses to allow him to speak, Pxie asks why he keeps talking behind her back and mocks Mindwaves. 38:03 Pxie points to one of Mindwaves's subtweets "i hate philosophy nerds" and mocks Mindwaves for it. She then tells Mindwaves he lost the debate and that he should get over it. 39:28 Mindwaves shrieks at Pxie to shut the fuck up. Pxie laughs. 42:00 Mindwaves tries to back out of the conversation and Dan attempts to amp him up. Mindwaves tells Dan to fuck off. 42:28 Mindwaves accuses Pxie of rewriting reality, Pxie counters that she has responded with timestamp and ample proof. 43:09 Mindwaves asks what their primary contention is, Pxie states it's that Mindwaves falsely accused her of espousing rhetoric that aligned with Fox News, Mindwaves doubles down. Mindwaves points to Pxie saying Trump is outflanking the left, Pxie counters that it was within the context of optics in specific situations. 47:57 Destiny pulls up one of the tweets Mindwaves took issue with. In the tweet, Pxie states if Trump were to support Universal Basic Income or call for the cutting of student debt it would be over for Biden. Pxie had another tweet where she stated if trump were to start aligning with populist rhetoric he would attract populist progressives, Pxie states she issued a retraction for this tweet. Mindwaves states that these tweets could be construed as support for Trump. 49:18 Mindwaves states that he has had several conversations with Pxie that made him doubt if she was on board with Biden. Mindwaves goes on to assert most of Pxie's rhetoric seems to be criticizing the Democratic party. Mindwaves goes on to shriek as Pxie attempts to interrupt him. 51:01 Mindwaves argues that it is a little strange that Pxie's rhetoric being against the Democratic party in conjunction with the aforementioned tweets, makes her come off as a Trump supporter. Pxie responds that Mindwaves is cherry picking tweets and context, and that she has several tweets "dunking" on Donald Trump. She informs Mindwaves that he has sent him these tweets. 53:00 Mindwaves argues that just because Pxie made some tweets criticizing Trump doesn't mean she's excused from irresponsible rhetoric. Pxie argues that Mindwaves is once again mischaracterizing her arguments. 56:48 Mindwaves argues that Pxie can't keep issuing correction tweets. Pxie counters she has only done so once. 58:10 Mindwaves once again argues that Pxie is engaging in irresponsible rhetoric. Pxie argues that she could find similar tweets from Mindwaves. 59:53 Pxie finds a tweets of Mindwaves that could be construed as irresponsible rhetoric. Mindwaves argue his tweet(mocking Biden for stuttering during a speech) is more defensible than hers, and could not be construed as praise for Donald Trump. Pxie demands for Mindwaves to show an instance of her praising Donald Trump. The two spend some time arguing over who's tweets could be more construed as support for Donald Trump. 1:07:47 An irate Mindwaves and Pxie debate "means testing" for several minutes to no avail. 1:15:41 Mindwaves argues that any tweet made by Pxie that required her to clarify it a million times should not have been made. 1:16:16 Dan declares that the conversation is now over as it has gone on too long. 1:16:44 Pxie and Mindwaves are given the opportunity to give closing statements. Mindwaves believes that Pxie’s unclear and inconsistent rhetoric inadvertently reinforced harmful narratives furthering right-leaning agenda, regardless of her intentions. Pxie argued that she was trying to caution against populist rhetoric, not support trump. She argues that Mindwaves was utilizing a bad faith interpretation of her statements/tweets.

That's SUCH a cop-out... - Destiny debates on Bernie or Bust ft. Pxie, Joshua4Congress & more

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That's SUCH a cop-out... - Destiny debates on Bernie or Bust ft. Pxie, Joshua4Congress & more

Main Article: Destiny Debates Joshua4Congress

On April 20, 2020 Pxie hosted a political panel featuring Joshua4Congress, Destiny, ImReallyImportant, melanie and Johnnyscarlett. Pxie primarily served as the moderator for the panel, and therefore had a limited say in the topics discussed. Despite sharing a left-leaning political affiliation, a noticeable rift was present amongst the panelists regarding the best methods of achieving left-wing policy(particularly with regards to the upcoming 2020 United States presidential election ). ImReallyImportant, and Destiny advocated for pragmatic voting strategies, including supporting Democratic candidate Joe Biden as a means to counter Republican incumbent Donald Trump and secure incremental progress. Conversely, Joshua4Congress, melanie and Johnnyscarlett expressed difficulty distinguishing Biden from Trump, and were more closely aligned with the Bernie or Bust movement.

During the debate, Destiny took particular issue with Joshua4Congress claiming to have trouble discerning the intent of Biden's policies as a result of his Autism . Destiny argued that Joshua was using a "cop-out", and that his alleged disability does not excuse his inability to understand or articulate policy positions. Following the debate, Joshua claimed in his Discord server that he was very tired and hungry, which resulted in his suboptimal debate performance.

"You're doing the Destiny thing..." - Post Bernie or Bust Discussion ft. Pxie

On April 20, 2020 Pxie, Destiny, Mindwaves, and Doug of CA discussed their frustrations with an earlier debate centered around the Bernie or Bust movement. Near the end of the discussion, Pxie asked Destiny for any advice he had regarding hosting panels in the future. Destiny provided the following advice:

1. Avoid interjecting your own opinion
2. Pick people so the strength on both sides is equally represented

Orbiter Civil War

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On October 24, 2022, Pxie, Destiny, Lav, Aba, MrGirl, Stardust, Chaiery, Brittany Simon, and Darius held a heated discussion for several hours on Destiny's stream. The conversation arose as a result of several members of the call having an "issue" with at least one other individual on the call. This culminated in MrGirl and Lav confronting Destiny with the argument that he should never criticize "Orbiters" on stream, for fear of backlash from his community towards these individuals. Pxie, like others on the call, were more aligned with Destiny. They felt that Lav and Mrgirl were attempting to absolve themselves from all responsibility for their actions on stream by advocating for such a rule.

Timestamps: Pxie

53:39 Pxie joins the call. The debate on community moderation, and Destiny's onstream treatment of orbiters continues. 1:11:06 Brittany says he's unsure why Max and Lav need Destiny to protect them. She also questions why the two are so eager to give up any agency they may have to Destiny. Pxie chimes in, and claims MrGirl and Lav are attempting to absolve responsibility for their actions. MrGirl later claims he is not entitled, and Pxie takes issue. 1:22:19 Destiny explains Pxie position after MrGirl misentrepts it(regarding professional and friendship boundaries).

Debate panel featuring Low Tier God and JiDion

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On November 6, 2022 Pxie took part in a panel discussing anti-Semitism and black issues, featuring Destiny, Lav, JiDion, LowTierGod, Aba, Counterpoints, and Darius. The panel opens with a debate regarding the importance of voting in presidential elections. JiDion, Aba, and Low Tier God argue that voting in these elections is unimportant and describe former President Barack Obama's tenure as ineffective. Several of the other panelists took issue with this view, and the group discusses for some time. The conversation eventually narrowed to a more specific focus on the black community, and the panel spends the remainder of the call discussing opportunities for its improvement.

During the conversation, Pxie prods Low Tier God on his claim that black people need to make better decisions. They discuss "the talk" black parents give their children about police interactions and other systematic issues. Pxie appears to believe that some of Low Tier God's arguments might make him seem like a "pick-me" for Republican bootstraps talking points, and tries to argue from a "meta" perspective on systematic black issues, such as the potential for encountering a racist cop. In response, Low Tier God claims his arguments stem from a desire to improve the lives of other African American individuals, and maintains that black people "just have to choose better". At one point, Pxie asks Low Tier God to acknowledge that it's possible for a black person to act on their best behavior and still get "fucked over" by a racist. Lav, feeling the need to answer for Low Tier God, assures Pxie that Low Tier God knows this. Low Tier God responds that he does not believe this, and Lav responds that Pxie is attempting to "posture over a black man".

Near the call's conclusion, Low Tier God laments that the only way African Americans can earn money on a large scale is through entertainment. He goes on to question why wealthy African Americans would even want to risk their wealth by making antisemitic remarks, and argues that they themselves damage the community. Destiny and Low Tier God then discuss the systematic issues prevalent in black communities for some time before the call concludes.

Timestamps: Pxie

2:28 Pxie asks Low Tier God if he believes the last few years would be the same if Donald Trump in office. Low Tier God responds that he saw much legislative work done for the LGBTQ and Latino communities, but nothing done for African Americans. 56:07 Pxie discusses with Low Tier God his claim that black people "just have to choose better". This leads to a conversation regarding "the talk" black people give their children regarding police interactions. Counterpoints gives his perspective as a police officer during this conversation. 1:01:44 Pxie asks Low Tier God to acknowledge that it's possible for a black person to act on their best behavior and still get fucked over by a racist. Lav feels the need to answer for Low Tier God here, and assures Pxie that Low Tier God knows this. Low Tier God answers no, which results in Lav accusing Pxie of posturing over a black man.

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