"I've never been more gaslit in my entire life..." - Destiny Debate ft. Hasanabi, TheSerfsTV, & More

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"I've never been more gaslit in my entire life..." - Destiny Debate ft. Hasanabi, TheSerfsTV, & More

On October 22, 2019 Destiny participated in a political panel hosted by Mindwaves. The panel featured Hasan Piker, TheSerfsTV(AKA Lance), Pxie, Ahrelevant, Bastiat, Kormantine and Cole James Cash.

First topic: Canadian Elections WIP

"Being friendly, don't mean you're my fucking friend... That goes for some individuals in this stream... Being polite, and joking about certain shit that you know damn well you couldn't walk into a room full of people of color and joke like that, or say something like that... It's a whole lot of that."

— James Cole Cash

Discussion Timestamps

0:45 Panel intros begin. 1:05 Kormantine gives his intro, he describes himself as a Black Socialist. 2:35 Cole James Cash gives his intro. He explains that he runs the "ghetto-news-network" and represents the "gangsta-left". In defining the "gangsta-left", Cole explains that he "doesn't play nice" nor "engage in civility, and will "call [anyone] out for actin foul". 4:22 Destiny gives his intro. 5:02 Bastiat gives his intro. 6:02 Lance gives his intro. 7:01 Pxie gives her intro. 8:30 Lance describes the topic, explaining that a recent Canadian election was going to be a toss-up between conservative and liberals, and the liberals lost out. Kormantine chimes in and explains that the election was a resounding defeat for most parties involved(liberals losing 27 seats, conservatives gaining 32). 10:31 Cole chimes in, adding that the election taught him that Canadians are "very friendly" about their racism. Kormantine agrees with this, caveating that this racism tends to diminish when "black folks" confront white people about this racism. 11:38 Cole:"Being friendly, don't mean you're my fucking friend... That goes for some individuals in this stream... Being polite, and joking about certain shit that you know damn well you couldn't walk into a room full of people of color and joke like that, or say something like that... It's a whole lot of that." 12:34 Bastiat expresses how happy he is that Canadians were able to express their right to self-determination, and explains he is happy that the election has prevented the establishment of oil pipelines across Canada. He goes on to explain that as a result of this election, Canada will be forced to send their oil through the United States. 13:21 Pxie begins to chime in but is told to stop talking by Kormantine so he can get his point across. Kormantine argues that there are several reason the oil pipelines can't move through the country outside of the ones provided by Bastiat. He explains that the oil pipelines would never have been established, given the lack of consent from first-nations. 18:22 Bastiat asserts that "pipelines in general are done in Canada". Kormantine once again argues that Bastiat is arguing in hypotheticals as the pipelines would never have been established to begin with, and Bastiat counters that the Trudeau had recently blocked a pipeline bill for $4.5 billion. 19:21 Cole describes Bastiat as "corny". 19:37 Mindwaves asks for Lance's perspective on the topic. Lance explains he doesn't know anything about this subject and wanted to talk about the election. Destiny chimes in that energy is important, and Bastiat adds that Canada's economic future for pipelines has been terminated. 21:20 Pxie asks for some clarification, explaining that she initially thought Canada was a service-based economy. Kormantine and Ahrelvant argue this seems to be true, to which Pxie adds that such a pipeline would not likely have a large impact on Canada's economy. Destiny adds that pain felt in an economy, would not be felt "all over" an economy. He explains that this pain is typically concentrated in specific areas, and the pain in those areas would be highly visible. He concludes that the pain in shutting down exports to oil, regardless how small that sector may be, would likely cause very visible pain to that area of the economy. 22:39 Cole sarcastically responds to Destiny, arguing they should "move the fuck on from this shit and get to the next topic". Kormantine adds he would have prefered to have this discussion with people who were more aware of Canada's situation.