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Boogie2988

Steven Jason Williams, known online as Boogie2988, is an old-school YouTuber. He has interacted with Destiny on an episode of Kick or Keep.

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Destiny Confronts Boogie2988 For Faking Cancer And CRASHES Keemstar's Show

On July 9, 2024, Turkey Tom and Destiny reacted to a videofrom Coffeezilla shedding light on an alleged "crypto-scam" performed by Boogie. While watching the video, general doubt was casted on Boogie's frequent claims of victimhood, particularly his claim of Polycythemia Vera(aka blood cancer). Upon the video's conclusion, Coffezilla wishes Boogie "good health" and Boogie responds "It's cancer man, you don't—people don't generally get better". Upon hearing this, Destiny stated the following:

"That's such a shitty thing to do, what an unbelievable fucking-what an actual piece of shit. Why the fuck would he say that at the end, that's such a disgusting thing to say: "It's cancer you always die", that's not true there are so many different types of cancer, with certain screenings depending what you're at risk for, so if you're a man at a certain age they recommend things like colonoscopies... Why would he say that, that's such a stupid fucking, horrible, thing to say. I wouldn't even care so much that he said that, but the fact that he'll say that and then say he has cancer, and he's collecting money for his treatment at the same time." -Destiny

Following this statement, Destiny begins investigating Boogie's cancer claim.

Destiny investigates Boogie's cancer claim

Destiny begins by reviewing a video uploaded to Boogie's youtube channel titled "I have a rare form of Cancer" on November 15, 2022. In the video, Boogie shared his recent diagnosis of a rare blood cancer, polycythemia vera, which he claims was likely triggered by his long-term testosterone supplement use.

Initially, Destiny questions why Boogie has only recently begun sharing the impacts of this disease over the last few months. As the video progresses, Destiny further questions why Boogie has not provided any proof of his disease, especially considering his requests for money from his audience. Destiny concludes his reaction by remarking that Boogie's description of his disease does not seem consistent with a typical cancer diagnosis. Destiny, admittedly arguing based off his intuition, infers that one could introduce the disease Boogie claims to have by introducing something to the body which causes an overproduction in red blood cells. Destiny further explains that cancer is typically caused by some genetic mutation/defect, and not some exogenous agent like testerone(as boogie claims to have been on).

Following the completion of Boogie's "psa" regarding his cancer diagnosis, Destiny begins researching Polycythemia in earnest. Upon reading the primary causes for Secondary Polycythemia(the non cancer form), which includes: sleep apnea, Obesity, and testerone treatment, Destiny notes that Boogie "hits all the darts on all the boards". After further investigation, Destiny concludes the following:

"It sounds to me like, when he says he has polycythemia vera, he's alluding to a type of polycythemia that can cause an elevation of red blood cells in the body. However, everything he talks about for why this elevation is happening, makes it sound not like this(polycythemia vera), it makes it sound like the secondary polycythemia, meaning it's being induced by something else, so it's not cancer."-Destiny concluding Boogie likely does not have cancer

Destiny continues, arguing that the only thing Boogie truly possesses at the moment is an elevation in red blood cells. Destiny explains that this increase in red blood cells is likely attributed to Boogie's overweightness, sleep apnea, and testosterone-treatment. Destiny chooses to rewatch Boogie's "cancer-psa" and notes the following:

• 58:18 The "cancer test" Boogie is participating in is a "sleep study" to find out if he has sleep apnea, which would be the most likely cause for his increased red blood cell count, and not polycythemia vera.
• 1:00:22 Boogie's doctor may have used the term "polycythemia", but did not use the cancer form of "polycythemia vera". Boogie's doctor likely said Boogie had an increase in red blood cells due to exogenous factors(like testerone) and not a genetic mutation(as one would expect from the cancer form).
• 1:07:52 The causes of Polycythemia Vera are unknown, and Boogie's mention of Testosterone treatment in his initial video indicate that Boogie likely received a diagnosis of Secondary Polycythemia.

Following a chatter's inquiry, Destiny explains his motivation for reviewing Boogie's claim in such detail. He states that he is partially motivated due to his personal experiences dealing with a cancer diagnosis for his child's mother, and that he is very irritated with Boogie's "woe as me attitude" for a cancer diagnosis he is seemingly faking. Destiny asserts once more that Boogie's increased red blood cell count is attributed to his obesity and testosterone treatment, meaning he likely has Secondary Polycythemia and not the cancerous Polycythemia Vera. Before the stream's conclusion, Destiny watches a twitter-video from Boogie wherein he responds to allegations of his faking cancer, and threatens to sue individuals who claim as much. Upon seeing this, Destiny argues Boogie is a liar and a "piece of shit", and requests for Keemstar to direct message him on twitter so he may confront Boogie on his "fake-cancer" directly.

Investigation Highlights

41:19 Destiny begins investigating Boogie's cancer claims. 42:27 Destiny questions why Boogie has not shown a receipt/doctor's note indicating his disease. 44:35 A chatter claims it is unreasonable for Destiny to request written evidence in such a scenario. Destiny disagrees, arguing that Boogie requesting of money in this scenario warrants a higher burden of proof. 46:04 A chatter suggests that Boogie's video is merely a PSA, to inform his audience he has cancer, and not a request for money. Destiny disagrees, arguing that Boogie's entire streaming life is a "gofundme", and questions why Boogie would announce this if he wasn't expecting financial assistance from his audience. 46:56 Destiny questions how Boogie can simultaneously claim the cancer does not affect him, while arguing he's been negatively affected the disease. 49:37 A chatter asks if Destiny believes Boogie will lose weight, Destiny replies "not without a significant drug intervention". 50:56 A chatter asks Destiny if he believes Boogie's girlfriend is real. Destiny replies that he could be, and given that Boogie is "highly manipulative", it's likely the girlfriend is genuinely with him. 52:26 Destiny questions Boogie's description of his "cancer", arguing that Boogie likely introduced something to his body(like testosterone) to cause an increase in red blood cells, unlike a genetic mutation typically attributed to cancer. 53:09 Destiny begins reading up on Secondary Polycythemia. 55:07 Upon reading further about the disease, Destiny notes that Boogie "hits all the darts on all the boards". 55:49 Destiny researches Secondary Polycythemia further, concludes Boogie does not have cancer. 58:00 Destiny rewatches Boogie's "I have cancer" video. 58:15 A chatter questions why Boogie is taking the "cancer test" again. Destiny explains that Boogie is in fact participating in a "sleep study" to find out is he has sleep apnea, which would be the most likely cause for his increased red blood cell count, and not polycythemia vera. 1:00:22 Destiny explains the exogenous factors contributing to Boogie's increased red blood cell count. 1:02:33 A chatter questions why Boogie needs testosterone treatment, Destiny explains Boogie's age and obesity likely lead to his decreased testosterone which is why he sought treatment. 1:06:18 Destiny searches the causes for Polycythemia Vera. 1:08:59 A chatter asks Destiny why he's so motivated to research this subject, Destiny explains that he has a slight personal attachment given his child's mother had cancer, and the idea that Boogie may be faking cancer is deplorable to him. 1:11:11 Destiny explains that the treatment of symptoms for Polycythemia vera and Secondary Polycythemia are likely the same. 1:14:54 Destiny watches a twitter-video from Boogie responding to allegations of his faking cancer. Upon seeing this, Destiny remarks that Boogie is a "piece of shit" and is "completely lying".

Destiny confronts Boogie

On July 10, 2024 Destiny confronted Boogie on the Lolcow Live podcast. During this confrontation, Destiny accused Boogie of falsifying a Polycythemia Vera(blood cancer) diagnosis to fuel a GoFundMe campaign under false pretenses. Destiny argued that all the primary symptoms and subsequent treatments Boogie reported are consistent with Secondary Polycythemia, caused by conditions like sleep apnea or obesity, rather than a primary blood cancer. Destiny further maintains that while the treatments for both Polycythemia and Polycythemia Vera are similar, this should not be taken as a confirmation of blood cancer as Boogie claims.

During the show, Boogie's primary defense centered around the presence of specific hormone markers in his blood, which he claimed were definitive indicators of Polycythemia Vera. He argued that these markers, along with increased red blood cell counts and hemoglobin levels, led his doctors to diagnose him with the condition without a bone marrow biopsy initially. Boogie went on to argue that the diagnosis was based on these blood tests and hormone indicators, asserting that they were sufficient proof at the time he initially shared his diagnosis. Boogie went on to describe how he had been fighting this cancer for years with the help of blood thinners and phlebotomies. Destiny took issue with this, arguing that if Boogie's blood marker's truly showed signs of Polycythemia Vera, his doctors would have ordered a bone marrow biopsy much sooner. He further explains that Boogie's claim of needing money for a bone-marrow biopsy, despite allegedly confirming the diagnosis two years ago with blood markers, is yet another scheme to extract more money from his audience under false pretenses.

Throughout the conversation, Destiny routinely asked for Boogie to provide a single piece of evidence(to a private party) relating to his diagnosis. Boogie continually denied this request, asserting he wishes to hold on to the "last vestiges of [his] privacy". Eventually, Destiny offered to pay $5,000 towards Boogie's medical treatment if he could provide verifiable proof of his cancer diagnosis, which was also met with Boogie's refusal. As the call concludes, Destiny states the following before departing:

"I just want people to remember in the future then, if Boogie says "I have to do x-y-z scam to raise money because my medical bills are hurting so much", he can speak publicly about his medical issues to scam his fans for money, but he can't take five-thousand dollars to privately confirm a diagnosis that he already publicly said that he has. Doesn't make any sense." - Destiny

Discussion Highlights

1:18:00 Destiny joins the lolcow live podcast to confront Boogie, asks Boogie if his doctor gave him a cancer diagnosis. 1:21:10 Destiny provides a complete breakdown to substantiate his belief that Boogie is faking cancer. 1:22:41 Destiny: "two years ago you said you had a cancer diagnosis... now you just said [that] now they're doing a biopsy to check for confirmation... are we treating a blood cancer without actually confirming it yet? For two years?" 1:23:34 Destiny requests for Boogie to show a single document with his cancer diagnosis on it. Destiny goes on to explain that Boogie likely just has Polycythemia, an elevation of red blood cells, and not cancer. Boogie responds that Destiny can see his medical records when he dies. 1:25:26 Destiny questions why Boogie would need to confirm his cancer diagnoses with a Biopsy if the cancer was evident in his blood markers. 1:29:37 Destiny questions why Boogie would spend money on a biopsy he did not require if the diagnosis was already allegedly confirmed. 1:30:47 Destiny lays out the entire story once more. He goes on to explain that all the leading symptoms and following treatments relating to Boogie's diagnosis are consistent with Secondary Polycythemia(the non-cancer form). Destiny further explains that Boogie's claim of needing money for a bone-marrow biopsy, despite allegedly confirming the diagnosis two years ago with bloodmarkers, is another lie for boogie to take more money from his audience under false pretenses. Destiny concludes that Boogie could simply disprove all these claims by providing a document showing the cancer diagnosis.

On July 15, 2024 Boogie pinned the following tweet to his X account:

	Boogie2988 @Boogie2988
According to the internet i "Lied about cancer." However for the last 2 years I've been treating the symptoms of that cancer. Blood tests, medications, and so much more. We still have one test left to do to verify WHICH cancer it is. For now, we have been treating the Polycthemia Vera which is the cancer they TOLD me that I have. My brother has seen it in my medical charts. My Girlfriend and best friend have been present when the doctor spoke of it. We are now doing more tests to confirm the Polycthemia Vera, or determine if there is a second cancer present. We are starting with a colonoscopy to see if there is cancer present there, as I've shown signs that prostate cancer is present. I was panicked when my doctor told me I had cancer 2 years ago and when I was in a vulnerable state I shared that long before I should have. It was a stupid, stupid thing to do. I should have never jumped the gun like that. I have NEVER done a go fund me. I have NEVER asked my audience for money to treat this cancer. I never have and never will. In fact in my years as a youtuber I've donated and helped raise tens of thousands of dollars to St Jude's Cancer Research hospital, to help people suffering with cancer. My father died of cancer. My best friend from childhood died of cancer. My friend John (total biscuit) died of cancer. Cancer is not something I would ever lie about. But I should have waited for the final tests to be done and not just repeated what my doctor had to say that day. i'm sorry that I ever spoke of it and moving foward no matter what happens I will not speak of it publicly. I consider this a closed matter and now will make sure it remains a private battle that is shared only with my closest loved ones. I'm sorry for those hurt or offended by either the rumors that have floated around, or by my actions when I spoke too early about my cancer. Of all the mistakes and fuck ups I've ever made in this life, this was the one that will haunt me to the bitter end, as it should. I'm genuinely sorry.
8:59 PM · Jul 15, 2024

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