JonTron

JonTron
Jonathan Jafari
Person
Political Alignment	Right
Occupation	YouTuber/Comedian
Age	33
Country of origin	USA
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Twitter	JonTronShow
Instagram	JonTronShow
Youtube	@JonTronShow
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Jonathan Aryan Jafari, also known as JonTron, is an American YouTuber, comedian, and media reviewer.

On Stream appearance and Controversy

Destiny debates JonTron on immigration and assimilation

JonTron agreeing to come on stream for a debate with Destiny(the suspended user). Also featuring 4THOT.

On March 12, 2017 JonTron tweeted out a defense to a quote from Iowa Representative Steve King, who tweeted in regards to the United States' immigration policy: "We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies." JonTron's initial defense of the tweet was the following: "Wow, how scandalous, Steve King doesn't want his country invaded by people who have contempt for his culture and people! NAZI!!!". JonTron would go beyond that initial defense for some time(4 hours) and soon crossed paths with Destiny on twitter. After some back and forth JonTron eventually agreed to come onto Destiny's stream for a debate.

The debate covered a wide array of topics, but gained significant attention due to JonTron's controversial comments on race, culture, integration and assimilation. Among these controversial comments include:

• Stating that a multicultural society is not sustainable long term
• Claiming wealthy blacks commit more crimes than poor whites
• Implying immigrants only migrate to the United States in order to send money back home
• Taking issue with certain races entering the gene pool of areas where whites are a majority
• Asserting there was no longer oppression in the western world

During the debate, JonTron frequently dismissed Destiny's points as speculative, attempted to compare immigration issues in Europe with those in the United States, and questioned arguments that depicted white people negatively.

Debate Play by Play

Debate intro The debate occurred on Destiny's channel and went on for one hour and eighteen minutes. As the conversation begins, JonTron checks his mic, cracks some jokes, and even compliments Destiny on his looks. Destiny explains his interest in "cultural issues", mentioning its current popularity and his ongoing discussions on his stream, referencing Brexit and Trump's presidency as examples. He further notes that the "gaming" community often leans a particular way on these topics, especially after Gamergate, and suggests that JonTron seems to have gravitated towards that perspective, specifically on immigration and cultural matters. Destiny then expresses his concern about JonTron holding such a viewpoint, especially considering his vast audience. JonTron responds, saying he doesn't find his perspective troubling. In fact, he's more concerned that people find it troubling in the first place, as he does not find such a perspective to be very controversial. He goes on to say that "staying on the fence", and "avoiding conflict" in such polarizing times is pointless. JonTron discusses identity politics, the left, and the impact of historical racism on modern day individuals JonTron asks Destiny what he finds "so troubling" with his perspective on cultural issues. Destiny responds that the general defense of "American Culture" from the sources he has read defending JonTron's point, tends to boil down to: "I think that this thing is better because it's majority white, and I don't want that to change...". JonTron responds by stating this is not his "core-argument", and that his main argument is that "no other nation would voluntarily change it's demographics". JonTron continues to press this point, saying that demographics are important as they provide an easy way of "identifying who's the problem". Destiny counters this, stating the United States is unique in it's identity, and doesn't truly have an ethnic background tied to the country and highlights the varying Eurocentric backgrounds that makeup a lot of the American population. JonTron then claims the U.S. is historically a "European Nation." Destiny disputes this, noting historical discrimination against Italians and Irishmen in the U.S, and cites a slur used to refer to Irish Americans. JonTron responds that these people are "still European", and Destiny(noticing that JonTron has missed the point of his argument), points out that these people were not seen as such historically in the United States and still faced prejudice. JonTron makes the argument that "we weren't there at the time" this prejudice occurred, and handwaves the argument of Italian/Irish prejudice as "bullshit". Destiny, seeing JonTron has missed the crux of his argument once again, restates his position that as time progresses the definition of what it means to be an American becomes more inclusive of diverse cultural backgrounds. Destiny further argues that, given this assumption, the strong pushback on who can belong to that demographic seems odd. JonTron then points the blame towards the "extreme left" for bringing identity politics to the fore by assigning "white and black" to certain areas, and goes on to say that a "nation is supposed to be bound by at least culture, if not genetics". Destiny takes issue with this point, and cites Jim Crow Laws for having a greater impact on identity politics, moreso than anything the left has done in modern politics. He goes on so say that identity politics have been part of the national identity for minorities in the United States since the country's inception. JonTron then responds that these plays at identity politics are not on the same level(implying that modern levels are worse than anything that happened during the JimCrow era), and that people are "still managing to create divisions between themselves". JonTron refusing to address the self-avowed Neo-Nazis backing his position At 16:35 the conversation turns to a discussion on Nazis and guilt by association. JonTron asserts that Nazis from the 1930s have no relevance to the current discussion. However, Destiny notes that some of JonTron's Twitter supporters identify as Neo-Nazis. While JonTron denies ever promoting NeoNazi views, Destiny questions the optics of having significant white supremacist support on racial issues. JonTron dismisses Destiny's labels as derogatory and provocatively offers his "whiteness", likening himself to an "Uncle Tom". Destiny redirects the conversation, praising the significance of a Half Iranian discussing American belonging and highlighting evolving national identities over time. JonTron discusses his belief in the lack of sustainability of a multicultural society JonTron asserts that "if there is one American(who is a citizen) in America who doesn't see themselves as American, then we have ourselves a problem." JonTron goes on to say that "In terms of a demographic majority, I don't know that a nation can exist without one, a truly multicultural, every single person is a different like thing or race or religion, I don't really know if that's sustainable long term." Destiny asks why this is the case, to which an infuriated JonTron then suggests to Destiny that he look at the last four years, accuses Destiny of gaslighting and pretending the last 4-8 years didn't happen. Destiny rebukes this claim, responding that JonTron's side is in fact performing the gaslighting when they claim there are riots all over Europe. JonTron is incredulous at this and retorts "THERE ARE, THERE FUCKING ARE, and goes on to quote the apologue of boiling a frog slowly(in that the frog does not notice it's dying at first). Destiny responds that one could make the same argument about anything, and cites Trump's move towards an authoritarian/fascist government. Destiny goes on to say that "we are in an unprecedented era of world peace", to which JonTron responds "that's about to change.. because shits falling apart". Destiny points once more to the fact that JonTron's side is indeed performing the gaslighting when Trump calls ISIS a threat to the western world, and claims crime is at a 40 year high. To which JonTron concedes that the gaslighting may occur on both sides, but still maintains his position. JonTron attempts to dispel the "myth" of historical racism towards Irish and Italian Americans JonTron states he is unsure where "the thing" that Irish and Italians were not considered white in the past originated from, and handwaves it as a myth. To which Destiny decides to link JonTron the wiki page on an ethnic slur used to refer to white people.[citation needed] JonTron responds that this article is not sufficient enough proof of this discrimination occurring. In disbelief, Destiny points out signs outside stores in the U.S. once read "Irish need not apply" and emphasizes the severe discrimination faced by Irish and Italian Americans. JonTron retorts, suggesting that "Maybe they(early Irish and Italian Immigrants) were just a bunch of dicks huh?" and continues to argue that discrimination against these groups doesn't mean they weren't considered white. He hints that they “perhaps had some traits that were undesirable" , and maybe their immigration should have been restricted, using the Italian mob as justification. Destiny pushes back, asserting that these groups did in fact integrate into American society, despite the lack of immigration controls JonTron suggested. He further argues that it would be absurd to limit immigration now, given the U.S.'s history of successful integration. JonTron believes that this kind of societal integration by immigrants is faltering, suggesting there's a growing divide, especially after the recent election that he perceives as having pitted whites against non-whites. JonTron discusses Mexico "importing crime" JonTron links Mexicans immigrating to the U.S. with "importing crime," asserting he'd feel similarly about any crime-committing racial group. Destiny questions JonTron's fixation on whites remaining the demographic majority. JonTron suggests whites aren't allowed to discuss their anticipated demographic decline. Destiny denies any looming threat to whites. JonTron implies there's displacement of whites akin to historical Native American displacement. He presents an Infowars chart projecting whites as a minority by 2042, implying it would be controversial if whites were colonizing minority countries. Destiny clarifies immigrants aren't colonizing but legally migrating. As JonTron tries to compare white colonization in Africa to immigrants establishing "ethnic enclaves" in the U.S., Destiny underscores the patriotism of many Mexican Americans. JonTron believes some aim to annex parts of the U.S. back to Mexico. Destiny then frames the argument, questioning if JonTron believes immigrants endure severe risks just to attempt such an annexation. JonTron declines to speculate on motives. They then spar over the distinction between speculating on actions and "stating facts." JonTron debates the ability of certain ethnic groups/minorities to integrate and the impacts of a diminishing white population Destiny redirects the conversation to the implications of demographic shifts in the U.S., querying JonTron on the significance of white people becoming a minority. JonTron, with hesitation, says it "shouldn't matter" but stresses immigrants should assimilate and not originate from "incompatible places." Destiny champions America's unique diversity and integration capability, touting its economic and global influence. JonTron references the U.S.'s shift from 92% white in 1950 to 60% currently as an unparalleled change. He questions why white concerns about this "displacement" are labeled racist. Destiny challenges the term "displacement" since no forced relocations are occurring. JonTron labels this "soft-displacement" and posits that once minorities become majorities, they won't prioritize "white American's interests." Destiny seeks clarification on "White American interests." JonTron argues a political dichotomy exists between white Americans and first-generation Mexicans. He claims the former lean libertarian, while the latter favor government assistance. Disagreeing, Destiny mentions red (Republican) states' reliance on federal aid and highlights the fiscal contributions of blue (Democrat) states/cities. JonTron insinuates southern states' higher non-white populations might be influencing their financial reliance, laughing it off. Destiny points out the inconsistency in JonTron's argument, noting if high non-white population states lean Republican, it contradicts JonTron's claim about minority voting behavior. Caught off-guard, JonTron acknowledges the contradiction but transitions the discussion to emphasize America's varied voting patterns, suggesting majority-white populations might be voting against their interests. JonTron and Destiny debate about Trump's messaging Destiny asks what these "white-interests" that are voted against include, to which JonTron points to media outlets calling Trump voters racist and that Trump is simply stating that "maybe we should keep America the way that it was". Destiny then asks JonTron what type of America he wants to return to in the phrase "Make America Great Again". Despite JonTron attemping to handwave the query as a "silly question", Destiny continues to press him. Eventually, JonTron clarifies that he wants to preserve America, not revert to a prior state. Destiny presses JonTron once again, asking him to clarify what he means by preserve, and points to JonTron previously taking issue with whites becoming a minority in America. JonTron discusses the disproportionate amount of crime commited by immigrants and people of color Destiny looking on in dismay as JonTron denies the existence of systematic racism JonTron makes the claim that "this whole melting pot thing requires that they(immigrants/minorities) become part of the great whole and don't form enclaves..." Destiny counters by highlighting how the United States has successfully integrated a multitude of diverse cultures, citing the vast array of cultural foods, music, and the diverse range of people one encounters in the country. He then questions JonTron about the sources informing his viewpoint that America is deteriorating because of immigration. JonTron accuses Destiny of misrepresenting his words, and replies "there is an absolute disproportionate amount of crime committed to whites by non-whites, there's no arguing that, that's just FBI statisics..." JonTron further argues that white individuals should be able to discuss this issue, but they are often labeled racist(by people like Destiny) if they do. Destiny points out that the best way to reduce crime would be to deport all poor people, as poor whites commit much crime, disproportionately compared to wealthier whites. JonTron immediately responds that this is "just not true", but later agrees after some debate that it's likely true in relative terms. Destiny asks JonTron if he thinks Poor blacks commit more crimes relative to wealthier black people, to which JonTron agrees, but adds then caveat that wealthy blacks also commit more crime than poor whites and implores Destiny to research it. Destiny is floored by this statement and isn't sure how to respond by such an extreme position. He asks his chat for assistance in finding backing for such a claim, and laughs at the sheer absurdity of the situation. "Do you think that poor blacks probably commit more crime, relatively to wealthier black people? -Destiny "Wealthy blacks, they do, wealthy blacks also commit more crime than poor whites, that's a fact, heh, look it up" -JonTron Destiny searches for evidence supporting JonTron's assertion but instead comes across an article indicating that poor white children have a lower likelihood of incarceration than wealthy black kids. JonTron quickly brushes off the article as mere "conjecture" and denies the insinuation of systemic racism in the judicial system. Destiny, however, argues that the court system is indeed racially biased, emphasizing that, even when accounting for socioeconomic variables, black individuals receive harsher sentences for the same crimes. JonTron states his disagreement with this claim, providing no backing, Destiny is unable to put words together in response and accidently knocks his microphone. JonTron discusses the implications of white people becoming a minority Destiny eventually reiterates a prior question: "Why is it so bad if white people become a minority?" JonTron responds that no racial group would want to become a minority in their own country, but eventually concedes he is not sure how to answer the question. JonTron then attempts to reverse the question back at Destiny: "Why is it so bad if white people remain a majority?" Destiny quickly retorts that the country would be excluding potential labor, and talent in order to remain the white majority that JonTron sought. JonTron assumes from this that Destiny wants white people to become a minority in the "end game", and accuses Destiny of projecting an ideology of nonstop immigration from the third world. JonTron takes issue with Mexicans bringing their culture to the United States JonTron uses an example of a Mexican immigrant moving to the United States because they view it as better than Mexico. He argues that if a significant number of such individuals illegally cross the border, those who express concerns risk being labeled as racist. He further suggests that if the culture in both countries becomes indistinguishable due to this migration, the same immigrant might become frustrated by the lack of differentiation between the two countries. Destiny then asks why would these individuals come to Mexico if they were happy with their country to begin with? To which JonTron replies: "because of better handouts? A lot of them are on welfare you understand". Destiny takes issue with this and points to the many Mexican migrants who come to the United States and are some of the hardest working, least lazy individuals. JonTron laughs this off, accuses Destiny of virtue signaling, and claims "a lot of them are going to commit crimes, the Salvadorians are going to create gangs..." Destiny responds that immigration is not even a predictor of crime in the United States, and points to more meaningful predictors such as single parent households and socioeconomic position. He then suggests JonTron focus on these instead of immigration. JonTron makes the claim that a lot of these "immigrants only migrate to the United States with the sole purpose of making money and sending it back home" to their origin country, implying these individuals have no long term investment in the country. He further contends that these immigrants aren't just filling unwanted jobs, but rather, they are displacing white workers by saturating the job market with low-wage labor, and altogether decreasing the standard of living. Destiny takes issue with this claim and points out that if a country brings in people that are willing to work for less money, this implies the cost to produce a product decreases, resulting in giving domestic companies the ability to sell their goods for less. JonTron laughs this argument off as well, stating "yeah sure you can sell out your society for a quick buck". Destiny then implies this would result in a world with "$3,000" iPhones. In response, JonTron states that "mass-consumerism" isn't the solution to societal issues. Destiny counters by sarcastically suggesting that JonTron believes reducing the standard of living is the way to address these problems. Destiny asks JonTron several times to explain why he takes issue with whites becoming a minority Destiny staring off into space, stunned as JonTron talks once again about European immigration shortly after handwaving every fact Destiny provided. Destiny asserts that the American identity has nothing to do with being majority white. In contrast, JonTron points out that "the confederate flag has been banned, and they're burning the United States flag in the streets... I Do think that immigration policies that haven't been the smartest are partly to blame for that". The two then loop once more through their previous conversation on why JonTron believes whites becoming a minority is an issue. Except this time when the line of questioning reaches the economic benefit of bringing in immigrants, JonTron implies that it only stands to benefit the "global elites". Destiny then points to the amazing technological innovations(i.e. new cellphones, cars) that poorer individuals are able to afford because of this consumerism. Destiny asks once more why it would be bad if white people became the minority, to which JonTron once again dodges stating: "listen this is just not how things work in reality..." He then attempts to steer the conversation once again to a European country, this time Yugoslavia and the war which he implied occurred as a result of unchecked immigration. Destiny takes issue with this characterization, pointing out once again he does not wish to discuss European nations, and that he highly doubts the end result of all immigration is massive civil war(like in the case of Yugoslavia). JonTron accuses Destiny of basing his arguments on an "old paradigm" and claims he doesn't support his points with data. In response, Destiny asks JonTron to specify what factual errors he believes Destiny made. Instead of answering directly, JonTron redirects the discussion towards Europe, trying to draw a parallel between Europe's purported immigration problems and potential issues in the United States. Destiny, stunned, asks JonTron once more to pinpoint any factual inaccuracies in his statements. JonTron then accuses Destiny of deflecting, to which Destiny makes the accusation right back at JonTron citing his tendency in the conversation to jump between different topics. JonTron directly asks Destiny why he chooses to toss out any argument he makes with regards to European nations. Destiny states it's due to the fact that JonTron is likely horribly misinformed on immigration issues in these countries and criticizes him for oversimplifying and lumping together the diverse immigration challenges each country faces. JonTron agrees initially, pointing to a supposed pattern that can be found in the immigration issues faced by each of these countries:"when you have mass immigration from countries who don't value liberalism... and equality between the sexes in the same way that western countries do... they will affect the overall culture". Destiny then asks how these western countries are able to maintain their liberal values in the face of so many people who supposedly "don't value liberalism", and asks JonTron to identify any Mexican immigrants who are protesting Civil Rights. JonTron tries once more to make a parallel to Europe, and Destiny is quick to retort that he wishes to only discuss the United States and that the individuals in Europe face extremely different problems. Destiny calls to the fact that there's no such thing as "white people" in Europe. JonTron believes this supports his point, suggesting it "just proves the tribalism thing". However, Destiny counters this by highlighting that in the United States, various white ethnicities have largely moved past their previous "tribal" distinctions and now see themselves as similar. Destiny, seemingly having enough of JonTron drawing parallels to Europe, finally addresses why the two continents are incomparable on this issue. Destiny emphasizes that the United States is a vast nation, sharing an extensive southern border with a less stable country. He contrasts this situation to the United Kingdom, which doesn't face serious immigration challenges. He also mentions Germany, which, despite welcoming millions of refugees, maintains a significant budget surplus. Furthermore, he notes that the Nordic countries have distinct circumstances of their own. He maintains once more that JonTron cannot bundle the European problems together and compare them to the America's. JonTron then attempts to compare colors, Cyan and Blue, and somehow attempts to segue this into an argument of how Europe and America face similar issues. Stunned by JonTron's claim of his being uninformed, Destiny nearly falls out of his chair with laughter. Once he regains his composure, he challenges JonTron to provide statistics on refugees committing crimes in the United States. JonTron retorts, calling Destiny "impossible." Destiny counters, mentioning that out of several hundred thousand refugees, only two were arrested for sending money back to their home countries, and takes issue with people like JonTron buying into the narrative from Breitbart that the country is falling apart. After some further deliberation, Destiny asks JonTron once more why he thins it would be bad if white people became a minority. JonTron asserts that he's addressed this topic before and argues that no one wants to become a minority in their own nation. He challenges Destiny to clarify his stance. Destiny responds by emphasizing that being American transcends race, and whiteness isn't a prerequisite or part of its definition. He further expresses confusion over the strong emphasis on racial delineations, and the notion of needing a specific number of white individuals to prevent them from becoming a minority that JonTron continues to push. JonTron replies with his agreement on the definition of American, but caveats that the status quo of the country presently is to "keep letting in people from the third world in order to atone for the "sins of the white past" until white people become a minority. Destiny then asks JonTron why the state of California is the sixth strongest economy in the world considering they deal with more Mexican immigrants than any other state. JonTron responds he is uncertain, to which Destiny replies it's likely due to the supply of labor, complimentary positions, and cites (every single)economist saying immigration grows an economy for everybody. JonTron tries to equate economists with "pollsters" who had predicted Hillary Clinton's victory in the 2016 election over Donald Trump. Destiny swiftly rejects this comparison, pointing out the stringent academic standards and rigor necessary to become a credentialed economist. The two rehash their previous identity politics conversation for some time, Destiny once again points to the fact that a half Iranian half Hungarian is defending whites, and points to the variety of multicultural centers in the United States that haven't fallen to chaos. Destiny asks JonTron: "Do you think it's okay to keep a country from progressing as much as it can in order to maintain a homogenous racial identity?". JonTron agrees with this characterization of his arguments, and cites Japan as an example. JonTron discusses Assimilation and the gene pool At 1:02:20, JonTron decides to steer the conversation towards a discussion on assimilation. Destiny walks JonTron through a line of questioning, and JonTron proceeds to offer some controversial answers. In one instance, Destiny poses a hypothetical scenario: if white people were to become a minority in a country where brown people assimilated seamlessly, would there still be an issue? JonTron expresses concern over these individuals integrating into the "gene pool." He goes on to argue that nations should regulate immigration rates to avoid a rapid "color shift" in their populations. "What if whites became the minority but most brown people assimilated to the culture and became the majority?"-Destiny "Well if they assimilated, they would enter the gene pool eventually, and would just... y'know..."-JonTron Destiny reiterates the question, and JonTron is quick to agree that the assimilation of millions of "brown people" seamlessly into a population would be fine, and concedes to Destiny that white people becoming a minority would not be a bad thing. Because JonTron concedes this point, Destiny points out the focus should not be on restricting immigration, but enhancing methods of integration and assimilation. JonTron replies that Destiny clearly has some moral ulterior motive. Destiny immediately clarifies, stating that his primary interest is in optimizing the success of a country and enhancing the opportunities for its residents to prosper. "When I state this argument, it makes me sound like I have a problem with people who aren't white... I'm just talking about the ideal way to do immigration.. I'm just talking about the demographic shift, whites are expected to lay down and take it"- JonTron JonTron discusses BLM At 1:05:03 JonTron questions Destiny about the Black Lives Matter movement, following Destiny's mention of black individuals embracing American culture. Destiny clarifies that Black Lives Matter arose because of the unique challenges black Americans face and the movement's aim to address these issues. JonTron laughs, labeling Destiny's view as "utopian." While not contesting the goals of BLM, JonTron criticizes their methods, associating the movement with "extreme rioting." Destiny rebuts, underscoring that a majority within BLM condemn rioting and advocate for peaceful protest. JonTron argues that BLM doesn't truly address key issues affecting black lives, particularly the high crime rates among young black males. Destiny questions the reasons behind this and, when JonTron is reluctant to elaborate, Destiny suggests this avoidance is why BLM exists. Destiny challenges JonTron's fear of making a racially insensitive statement. JonTron claims Destiny is trying to "entrap" him and suggests he should work for CNN. Destiny cites single-parent households and socioeconomic factors as reasons for the high crime rate. The debate returns to "white guilt". JonTron believes white people shouldn't feel guilty for past actions, while Destiny thinks white individuals should acknowledge historical injustices. JonTron accuses Destiny of trying to trap him in a racist comment and expresses frustration over the single-parent argument. Destiny again asks JonTron about the high crime rate among young black males, but JonTron continues to avoid the question. After further discussion on whether or not racism towards Irish/Italian Americans existed in the past, JonTron eventually agrees with Destiny that discrimination is wrong and even asserts that western countries have managed to eliminate discrimination. Destiny disagrees, and prepares to give examples such as voter-id laws until JonTron decides to interject with the following: "People like me are supposed to listen to people like you chatter on about this 'oppression' in America, it doesn't exist dude, it doesn't exist, there's no oppression". After some minor further exchange on the topic, the two bid each other farewell and Destiny recaps the debate for an hour with his stream.

Aftermath of JonTron's debate with Destiny

Google trends chart showing interest in the search term "JonTron" over time. Note the spike in March 2017 when Destiny and JonTron debated.

This conversation was quite the turning point in Destiny's streaming career, and cemented his position(for some time) as a "lefty" streamer willing to engage the right. Throughout the conversation, whenever Destiny presented a coherent logical argument, called JonTron out for a misstep, or cited a statistic, JonTron either derailed the conversation to a different topic or laughed off the questions/arguments. Those on the left lauded Destiny for his performance, while those on the right were hypercritical of Destiny's "debate tactics". While the more "terminally-online" political sections of the internet were divided on the result of the debate, mainstream media outlets were quick to report on JonTron's controversial comments including:

• TIME
• CBC
• Kotaku

JonTron's response video

On March 19, 2017, JonTron released a video titled My Statement. He described the articles written about him following the debate as uncharitable, and accuses them of highlighting things he did not truly believe. He admitted he was not prepared for the debate and went on to describe many of his remarks as being made in the "heat of the moment". JonTron contended that his main argument in the debate was to speak to the increasing tribalization of American culture, the silencing of white voices, and the lack of acknowledgement of "uncomfortable statistics". He concluded the video by asking the audience not to delve too deeply into the statements he made during the debate, and that he'd be returning his focus to making comedy videos.

JonTron is cut from a game

On March 23, 2017, JonTron's voice acting role for Yooka-Laylee, was cut from the game. The developer stated “We recently became aware of comments made by voice artist JonTron after development on Yooka-Laylee had been completed, in light of his recent personal viewpoints we have made the decision to remove JonTron’s inclusion in the game via a forthcoming content update.”

JonTron discusses the debate on H3H3's podcast

On November 30, 2017, JonTron discussed his debate appearance with Destiny on the H3 podcast at 46:26. Ethan(the host of the podcast), is careful not to mention Destiny by name during the discussion and purposely refrains from any debate with JonTron. JonTron admits that he needed much more preparation for the original debate, and understands the backlash to some of his remarks. He also makes clear that he is not a Nazi, and expresses disappointment at the supposed inability for the discussion to be had without resulting in a "witch-hunt".

Notable Clips, videos and tweets

JonTron anti-vax controversy

On October 25, 2021 JonTron faced some backlash on Twitter for his comments about Dr. Anthony Fauci and vaccines. Although he denied being anti-vax, his tweets seemed to cast doubt on vaccine efficacy, leading to accusations of spreading misinformation. He also highlighted allegations against Dr. Fauci concerning experimentation on beagle puppies and implied that Fauci's administration might have contributed to the COVID-19 outbreak. Many online users criticized his claims, explaining the science behind them or condemning his apparent anti-vax stance. In response, JonTron clarified he supports vaccination but is concerned about the current state of public discourse.

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