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=== Hasan Claims to "own" Destiny in a debate regarding the successfulness of Donald Trump as a Republican === | === Hasan Claims to "own" Destiny in a debate regarding the successfulness of Donald Trump as a Republican === | ||
On January 24, 2024 Hasan claims to have "owned" Destiny in one of their initial discussions regarding the successfulness of Donald Trump as a Republican. Hasan claims to be proven correct as Trump was able to stack the supreme court, "destroy" regulatory agencies, and offer "fat" tax cuts.<ref> Ben Shapiro vs Destiny Debate | HasanAbi reacts to Lex Fridman Podcast. (Jan 24, 2024 ). www.youtube.com. Retrieved April 4, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i9UYIkDTsY&t=4752s </ref> | On January 24, 2024 Hasan claims to have "owned" Destiny [https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/Hasan_Piker#Destiny_has_a_pre-debate_discussion_with_Hasan in one of their initial discussions] regarding the successfulness of Donald Trump as a Republican. Hasan claims to be proven correct as Trump was able to stack the supreme court, "destroy" regulatory agencies, and offer "fat" tax cuts.<ref> Ben Shapiro vs Destiny Debate | HasanAbi reacts to Lex Fridman Podcast. (Jan 24, 2024 ). www.youtube.com. Retrieved April 4, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i9UYIkDTsY&t=4752s </ref> | ||
During the discussion, Hasan claims Trump has been incredibly successful as a Republican president because his underlying positions are just "regular fucking conservative principles". Hasan elaborates that his positions are all the "modern GOP positions" but his rhetoric is just different, and is just more appealing to his base voters. He goes on to point to things such as the Republican Tax plan, the "destruction" of the EPA", and the "destruction" of the financial protection bureau. He concludes that this is all "regular republican shit" that Trump was able to accomplish in an authoritarian fashion.<ref> ( Oct 23, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved April 4, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9iPLU3fAFA&t=5272s </ref> | During the discussion, Hasan claims Trump has been incredibly successful as a Republican president because his underlying positions are just "regular fucking conservative principles". Hasan elaborates that his positions are all the "modern GOP positions" but his rhetoric is just different, and is just more appealing to his base voters. He goes on to point to things such as the Republican Tax plan, the "destruction" of the EPA", and the "destruction" of the financial protection bureau. He concludes that this is all "regular republican shit" that Trump was able to accomplish in an authoritarian fashion.<ref> ( Oct 23, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved April 4, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9iPLU3fAFA&t=5272s </ref> | ||
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Hasan once again disagrees with this, and maintains his prior position that Trump still advocates for "staple Republican positions". He then makes the point that Republicans will always vote for whoever "triggers the libs" the most. Destiny agreed with this in the end, but maintained they will just have to see what happens after the midterms to the party. | Hasan once again disagrees with this, and maintains his prior position that Trump still advocates for "staple Republican positions". He then makes the point that Republicans will always vote for whoever "triggers the libs" the most. Destiny agreed with this in the end, but maintained they will just have to see what happens after the midterms to the party. | ||
=== MrDeadMoth domestic abuse situation === | |||
[https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/Hasan_Piker#Domestic_abuse_-_MrDeadMoth_hits_wife_ft._MrMouton,_Hasan,_WhiteNervosa On December 12, 2018] Destiny and Hasan debated the circumstances surrounding a domestic abuse situation involving Fortnite streamer MrDeadMoth. <ref> Domestic abuse - MrDeadMoth hits wife ft. MrMouton, Hasan, WhiteNervosa. (Dec 12, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved March 1, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RAZHElDZL8 </ref> Hasan, while of the opinion MrDeadMoth's wife did take steps to escalate the situation, maintains that MrDeadMoth bore the brunt of the blame in the situation for physically retaliating against his partner. Destiny took the contrary position, stating that while MrDeadMoth's physical response should not be excused, the wife's persistent approach, escalation, and starting of the physical altercation, should be viewed as provoking or exacerbating the situation. | |||
=== Breaking News === | |||
[https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/Hasan_Piker#Hasan_and_Destiny_debate_breaking_news On January 7, 2019] Destiny and Hasan debated the ethicacy of reporting on breaking news and the roles of journalists and commentators in shaping public perception. Hasan, after reporting a recent shooting may have been racially charged, was accused of "race-baiting" after more information was released revealing that the shooting was in fact gang-related(not a hate crime). Hasan felt this criticism was unwarranted, claiming he was merely working with the facts he had at the time and that he could not waiting for more facts to come out as it would be to the detriment of his job. Destiny took issue with this perspective, arguing it was irresponsible of Hasan to cover the shooting before more information was released. Moreover, Destiny argued that Hasan should have avoided constructing a narrative around hate crimes, highlighting the hypocrisy Hasan would show if a right-leaning commentator speculated about Arabs following a bombing. | |||
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Revision as of 03:09, 6 April 2024
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Status | HasanAbi |
Political Alignment | Progressive Left/Socialist |
Qualifications | Political Science/Communications Degree |
Occupation | Twitch Streamer/Political Commentator |
Age | 33 |
Country of origin | USA |
Media | |
Website | https://ideologie.shop/ |
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Hasandpiker | |
Youtube | @hasanabi |
Manifolds Market | Hasan Stock |
Other | |
Awards | Antagonist of the Year |
Hasan Doğan Piker (born July 25, 1991) is an American political commentator, streamer, and YouTuber. He is best known for his political commentary on the progressive news network The Young Turks and for his Twitch streaming channel, where he discusses pop politics, news headlines, and popular culture. Piker has gained a large following for his outspoken views on progressive politics and social issues.
Hasan’s first appearance on Destiny’s stream occurred on October 8th, 2018 to discuss an upcoming debate with Charlie Kirk and laude Destiny for his prior debates. Following, this stream, Hasan became a temporary fixture of Destiny’s streams, and a close friend. His initial appearances focused primarily on the burgeoning online-right movement and various economic/political theory. Hasan would frequently join Destiny on podcasts, occasionally IRL stream with him at restaurants and bars, and would regularly appear on Destiny's stream to play games or discuss current controversial issues. Over time, Hasan's limited debate experience, ideological differences with Destiny(primarily concerning left-wing thought), and struggles proccessing criticism from both Destiny and his community, eventually strained their relationship to the point where the two streamers cut ties with one another.
Currently, Hasan and Destiny are not on amicable terms. Their mutual dislike has intensified over the years, primarily stemming from personal animosity, ideological differences, and disputes over various contentious issues. The two will regularly criticize the positions/actions of the other, and have fostered communities that mirror their mutual dislike. Despite this animosity and his status as a prominent online political commentator, Hasan has consistently declined to appear on stream with Destiny or engage in debates with him since their initial fallout, citing a general disdain for debates and "debate-perverts".
Early life and education
Hasan Piker was born on July 25, 1991, in New Brunswick, New Jersey. He spent his early years in Turkey before moving back to the United States for college. Piker attended Rutgers University, where he earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in political science and communication.
Career
The Young Turks
Piker began his career as an intern at The Young Turks in 2014. He quickly rose through the ranks, becoming a producer and on-air contributor. Piker gained prominence for his "Bro Tips" show, a dating advice show.
Twitch streaming
In 2018, Piker started streaming on Twitch, where he discusses pop politics, news headlines, and popular culture. His Twitch channel, "Hasanabi," has amassed a large following, making him one of the most popular political streamers on the platform. Piker's streams often feature discussions with journalists and content creators.
On stream appearances with Destiny WIP
Destiny has a pre-debate discussion with Hasan
On October 9th, 2018 Destiny engaged in a "pre-debate debate" with Hasan. This discussion was held in preparation for a future politicon appearance Hasan would have with Charlie Kirk. [1] Hasan begins the conversation cordially, praising Destiny for being "awesome," citing his "excellent" content, and expressing that he "really likes what he's about." From there, the two engage in a lighthearted conversation discussing topics such as Neoliberalism, Destiny's political and gaming background,the current political climate, and Hasan's upcoming debate with Charlie Kirk. Other topics discussed include, Destiny and Hasan's political perspectives, prior debate experiences with conservatives, and a disagreement Hasan had with Destiny regarding the succesfullness of Donald Trump as a president.
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Destiny's Political Perspective
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Destiny reacts to a Politicon panel featuring Hasan and Charlie Kirk. Hasan and Destiny discuss the following day
Destiny's reaction to the Politicon Panel
On October 20, 2018 Destiny reacted to a Politicon panel featuring featuring Hasan and Charlie Kirk.[2] The primary focus of the panel was: "Whether young people should be progressives, conservatives, or perhaps something else". Destiny was mildly impressed by certain aspects of Hasan's debate performance. He appreciated Hasan's ability to challenge and critique various points, particularly in the context of discussing systemic issues and the limitations of free-market solutions. He also recognized the difficulty Hasan faced in addressing complex topics such as healthcare, education, and wealth distribution, in the face of a practiced "Gish-Galloper" such as Charlie Kirk. He did however offer a few critiques:
- Destiny suggested that Hasan could benefit from incorporating more 'scummy tactics' used in live debates, implying a need for more strategic interjections and rebuttals tailored to the format, especially facing an individual such as Charlie Kirk.
- Destiny indicated that Hasan could improve in how he handles the framing set by his opponents, particularly in redirecting or countering their narratives more effectively.
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Highlights from Destiny's reaction include:
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Discussion with Hasan
On October 21, 2018 Destiny and Hasan had a three and a half hour long discussion regarding Hasan's recent debate experience at Politicon. [3] The conversation begins with Destiny explaining to Hasan that he did not necessarily dislike the points he attempted to convey to Kirk, but was critical of his attempts to get those points across. Hasan agreed with this sentiment, and pointed to Kirk's tactics of outright lying, Gish Galloping, moving the goalposts, and crafting messages for "applause breaks" as being very frustrating to deal with. Destiny sympathised with this, agreeing that the debate tactics employed by Kirk are very hard to deal with in real time, particularly in a live format. From there, the two discussed tactics Hasan could have employed better in the debate, their grievances with modern day conservatives, and the best methods in reaching out to a "broader" audience.
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Dealing with Gish Galloping
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As the conversation concludes, Hasan thanks Destiny and admits that although his audience initially viewed Destiny with skepticism, believing him to be a social democrat, they have now fallen in love with him. Hasan then raids Destiny's channel, and offers to help "tag-team" someone in a debate should Destiny ever wish.
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Hasan and Destiny meet in-person
On November 1, 2018 Destiny and Hasan spent an evening together and had dinner in-person. [4]
Hasan's Richard Lewis Debate - Post-debate discussion with Hasan
On November 2, 2018 Hasan engaged in a debate with esports journalist Richard Lewis regarding hot-button topics at the time. Topics included the Mainstream Media, Donald Trump, Shifting Demographics, and Obama Era Deportations. [5] The call concluded with Lewis describing Hasan as a "diet Destiny".
On November 6, 2018 Hasan and Destiny reacted to a vod of the debate together. [6] At the onset of the stream, the two experience several delays due to technical difficulties primarily attributed to synchronizing the audio of both the vods they are watching, low-volume, and Destiny hearing an echo from Hasan's stream(Hasan did not have headphones at the time). Destiny eventually decides that Hasan should simply watch his stream while he reacts to the vod, Hasan points out that Destiny's stream has a five-second delay, to which Destiny responds Hasan can just "scream" if he wants the video paused. Destiny immediately retracts this idea, and settles on just screensharing the video through discord(only after Destiny berates the chatter who suggested this alternative). From this point, Destiny's stream is left with the muffled audio of Hasan's debate with Richard Lewis, which the two react to for the remainder of the call.
Throughout the video, Destiny levies several critiques of Lewis at both a personal and argumentative level. Destiny calls "spineless" for his behavior following the JonTron Debate, citing Lewis' claim that he had made Jontron appear racist through debate-tactics. Destiny also ridicules Lewis for being under the control of esports broadcaster, Thorin, describing him as being on a “little leash” held by the broadcaster whenever he forms an opinion. On an argumentative level, Destiny critiques Lewis's tendency to gish gallop Hasan at several points during the debate, disputes Lewis's views on American Exceptionalism in journalism, and criticizes the way figures like Lewis struggle when faced with facts which stand in direct opposition to their claims. While watching the video, Hasan observes that Lewis often claims their conversation is "not a debate" and uses this assertion to dodge pressure or clarification on issues. Hasan suggests that Lewis's likely only joined his stream for the sake of gaining clout from his stream, a point with which Destiny agrees. Destiny and Hasan went on to critique many of Lewis' defenses for Donald Trump, primarily relating to the hypocrisy of Conservatives when defending Republican figures and attacking Democratic ones, and the tendency of centrists like Lewis to use liberalism as a "convenient suit" to push any argument they may be in favor of.
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Technical Delays
16:30: As the audio was being played through Hasan's speakers, whenever Hasan speaks, the audio from the video is muted. A frustrated Destiny decides to pause the video and fruitlessly work on a solution with Hasan to settle this issue. No solution is found, and the two continue with the video.
1:08:39: Destiny discusses how Lewis' feud with the r/Leagueoflegends mods after a subreddit ban, and his threats of doxing the team, resulted in a reddit-wide ban on his account.
54:31: After mockingly presenting an argument presented by Lewis while mimicking his accent, Hasan proclaims "that's literally every fucking British dipshit, every British central dipshit", to which Destiny warns Hasan against disparaging all British people, and to focus on this particular commentator.
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Destiny at Hasan's place
On December 1, 2018 Destiny streamed with Hasan at his apartment for eight hours. During the stream, the two discussed several mainstream events at the time including teenagers getting kicked out of a McDonalds, a doctor being removed from a commercial flight, and a Janitor getting fired from a public school. The four seperate videos are a result of the owner of the Last Night On Destiny channel attempting to break up the eight hour vod.
At Hasan's place ft. Felklmao
Destiny arives at Hasan's apartment, plays with Fish(Hasan's dog), and proceeds to help troubleshoot some technical issues with Hasan.[8] At one point, prolific DGG chatter Felklmao requsts to join the call, and Destiny warns Hasan against allowing him in for fear of getting gnomed. Felklmao does eventually join the call and proceeds to have a friendly conversation with Hasan, no gnomes involved.
Talk with Hasan - McDonnald's employee kicking teenagers out
At one point during the stream, Hasan mentions that he saw Destiny's reaction to a situation involving a group of teens, whom after allegedly being threatened by a gunman in a McDonalds, were removed from the premises by a manager. Destiny, being on the side of the manager in this situation, had some disagreement with Hasan over this event. Destiny's primary contention being that the manager was in the right not to believe "teenagers walking around like a bunch of dumbasses", and that a McDonalds does not need to serve as a fortress against some "ar-15 shots". Hasan counters, and suggests that the manager should have exhibited "just a little care" for her fellow human beings. The two engage in a lighthearted debate for some time. [9]
"What if it was Nathan(at the McDonalds shouting for help)?" - Hasan "I don't care, fuck him dude... If Nathan is around there bullying some fucking dude.. Nathan what the fuck is wrong with you? Why are you screaming some dumbass shit?" -Destiny
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Talk with Hasan - Doctor kicked out of airplane
Destiny and Hasan debate an incident involving a Doctor's refusal to leave his seat when directed because he needed to see patients the following day. Destiny maintains that the doctor should have booked a first-class flight if he was so concerned with the wellbeing of his patients. Hasan criticises this suggestion, highlighting the uncertainty of first-class availability and violations of consumer protection. [10]
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Talk with Hasan - Disciplining employee - School janitor case
During the stream Destiny and Hasan engaged in yet another light hearted debate, this time involving a janitor being fired from a middle school for leaving early. Destiny, was of the opinion that the janitor should not have left the school early, while Hasan felt the firing was unjustified.Eventually, Hasan agrees with Destiny that the principal had provided a compelling reason for the janitor to be present at the school, he caveats that the principal is still being an “egomaniacal tyrant and a horrible boss” in this scenario. [11]
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Domestic abuse - MrDeadMoth hits wife ft. MrMouton, Hasan, WhiteNervosa
On December 11, 2018 Destiny ,while driving his Nitrous Blue Ford Focus RS, has a heated conversation with his chat regarding a domestic abuse situation involving fortnite streamer MrDeadMoth and his wife. During the conversation, Destiny asserts parents should never fight in front of their kids, maintains throwing items at your partner(as the wife did) still constitutes physical abuse, and repeatedly berates a chatter who suggested otherwise. [12] [13]
On December 12, 2018 Destiny reviewed the domestic abuse case from his home-office, and was eventually joined by several other friends of the stream.[14] Individuals in the video such as MrMouton, Hasan, and WhiteNervosa had slightly varied focuses on the situation, but all came to the conclusion that MrDeadMoth bore the brunt of the blame and should not have physically retaliated against his wife's physical actions towards him.Destiny took the contrary position, stating that while MrDeadMoth physical response should not be excused, the wife's persistent approach, escalation, and starting of the physical altercation, should be viewed as provoking or exacerbating the situation. Destiny goes on to point out that the wife repeatedly engaged and re-engaged in confrontational behavior, which included throwing objects and verbal provocation, while MrDeadMoth attempted multiple times to deescalate the situation.
"I'm sorry.. anybody who defends the women here is a literal subhuman piece of shit... I don't even know how you can even begin to think that her actions here are remotely okay. She instigates every physical violence here, she starts every single time.. And is the guy right for slapping her? No he's not, but every single time he backs off, she keeps coming back, not to talk... but to be physically abusive over and over again... People are linking pictures in chat... of the guy.. this is aparantly pictures he has taken of abuse. I don't even need these, because it doesn't even matter... this video speaks for itself." - Destiny 25:56
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10:0829:33 Destiny claims that he typically never speaks on this issue(women on man domestic abuse), due to thinking it was common sense to understand how bad such situations are. He highlights how this situation has seemed dispel that thought, as he has witnessed many alleged feminists applauding MrDeadMoth's harassment by his wife. He goes on to describe how he typically doesn't speak on this issue, because he finds Men's-rights activists online to be quite abhorrent. Following this, Destiny describes the double standard at play when people find it amusing for a women to abuse a man 14:42 Destiny asserts that all domestic abuse is bad, and that no physical altercations should ever occur in a relationship. He goes on to claim that the fact that this situation is occurring in front of a child makes the situation even more tragic. Destiny then states that the women appears to be consistently instigating the situation, while the man attempting to play the game is doing little wrong. He concludes that if the gender roles in this scenario were swapped, the positions of many outspoken critics towards MrDeadMoth would be reversed. 28:02 Destiny describes the "reasonable answer" one should give when experiencing abuse, which is calling the authorities. He caveats this by stating: "All three times that I have called the police(in similar domestic abuse scenarios), they have blamed me for what happened. So when Rachel would get physically violent with me, three times... one time when my mom was even visiting. I called the cops three times, women police showed up, and they said it was my fault I was driving her to that."
Destiny's contention with MrMouton was primarily centered on whether or not the slap by MrDeadMoth was justified. Destiny maintains that if one were to get physical with their partner as a result of them instigating physical abuse, a slap is the most optimal form of retaliation. Destiny goes on to state that individuals put into stressful situations do not always act optimally, and people are placing an unfair amount of responsibility on MrDeadMoth in this situation. 50:11 MrMouton claims MrDeadMoth "punched the shit" out of his wife. Destiny responds he cannot possibly know this occured, and he does not believe MrDeadMoth ever punched her. MrMouton would go on to state that the biggest issue was that MrDeadmoth did so in front of his child, to which Destiny responds the fault is on the wife for escalating the situation in from of their child. Hasan's position
56:57 When questioned by Destiny how one should not counter being physically assaulted by their partner with more violence, Hasan describes curling up into a ball when being attacked by his partner. Destiny disagrees and argues "fuck that shit". 58:38 Hasan puts forth that MrDeadMoth should have shut off the game, and de-escalated the situation. Destiny counters that the situation is inherently ridiculous, stating: "she is using physical violence and intimidation to get her way, to force him to have a conversation he may not want to have, in order to deescalate a situation. I'm almost more in favor saying the guy is more in the right to fight her, than to fucking sit here and entertain the conversation..." 1:00:24 Hasan claims to cover domestic abuse situations in the same framework as police brutality, in that the male has much more force in most situations. Destiny counters that police sign up and have training for such situations, while the average male partner does not. 1:02:37 Hasan argues that the best possible outcome for the scenario would be if MrDeadMoth turned off his pc and attempted to confront his wife. Destiny disagrees, and puts forth that the best outcome would be for him to leave the room and call the police. 1:18:05 Hasan argues that he would never hit someone much smaller than him, especially a pregnant women. Destiny pokes fun at Hasan for this line of thought, and argues that MrDeadMoth's wife being pregnant places more blame on her for instigating and escalating such a situation. Whitenervosa's position 1:59:04 Destiny calls out WhiteNervosa for stating MrDeadMoth's wife is receiving more hatred than MrDeadmoth himself. Destiny goes on to state, he already knows what her take is, and is already anticipating killing himself upon hearing it live. 2:05:27 WhiteNervosa eventually joins the call, and asks Destiny why he believes the women is more at fault than the man. Destiny reasserts his position, stating the women instigated the violence and consistently escalated it. WhiteNervosa questions how MrDeadMoth deescalated the situation, and how his wife reengaged in physical violence. Destiny responds "he went back to his chair and put his headphones on", and "after he hits her for the first time, he sits back down, and she comes back and reengages, and re-escalates in the physical violence again." WhiteNervosa then asks "what does she do", to which Destiny describes how MrDeadMoth's wife "throw shit at him, threaten to break shit, looks like she's about to hit him." Following this line of questioning, WhiteNervosa accuses Destiny of being charitable to MrDeadMoth, and not his wife stating he has no idea of knowing whether the wife was going to attempt to hit him. Destiny responds the wife is in fact threatening to harm MrDeadMoth, pointing out that she threw items, broke items, and MrDeadMoth raised his hands in an attempt to block a blow at one point. WhiteNervosa asks Destiny if he believes MrDeadMoth escalated force needlessly after having items thrown at him. Destiny responds he does not know, to which WhiteNervosa further inquires if it matters what items are being thrown at MrDeadMoth, and provides the example of a birthday balloon. Destiny argues it likely does not matter, and informs WhiteNervosa this take is "hilariously baby brained, I can't tell if you're ironically making it or just trying to win the argument." WhiteNervosa then attempts to argue "you wouldn't say cardboard is the equivalent of a lamp right?" Destiny responds "I don't know... throwing folded up cardboard at a person fucking hurts, go get somebody into a garage and fucking try it." WhiteNervosa attempts to cut Destiny off at this point to disagree, to which Destiny responds : "Can you please shut the fuck up and go try it before saying it doesn't hurt, like this is a hilarious fucking first grade take, first of all throwing folded up fucking boxes at people does fucking hurt, secondly that's not the only thing that we saw thrown at him, she's throwing shit hard enough to wiggle the camera in the room, and we hear stuff falling on the floor in the background, but if you wanna pretend the only thing she's throwing are balloons then..." From hereon out, the two deliberate on whether MrDeadMoth received ample enough provocation to retaliate against his wife. Destiny becomes seemingly more infuriated with the conversation as it proceeds, part in fact due to WhiteNervosa's tendency to place the majority of the blame on MrDeadMoth. This tension in this call eventually builds up to a point where Destiny throws his hands to his head(shortly after being killed in his call of duty match) and states WhiteNervosa is "fucking retarded" and ends his stream. |
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Hasan discusses PewDiePie and E;R with Destiny
On December 17, 2018, Destiny and Hasan discuss PewDiePie's political ignorance, and how the same ignorance appears to be prevalent throughout much of online discourse. [15] The video begins with Hasan discussing how PewDiePie, near the end of a recent video, had inadvertently promoted a "Nazi youtube channel" by the name of E;R. Despite PewDiePie editing out the promotion of E;R from the prior video and issuing an apology, Hasan goes on to claim that PewDiePie's apology was "fake" as he included the same promotion twice in the apology video coupled with promoting pieces of E;R's content in earlier videos. Hasan would go on to state that these actions make it seem like PewDiePie may be a crypto-fascist. Destiny responds that he is hesitant to label PewDiePie as such, given that he may truly just be ignorant when it comes to interpreting harmful political messaging, claiming the same ignorance is rife throughout "gamer-bro" communities .
Eventually, the conversation veers off into a discussion on Venezuela and Socialism, and Hasan exits the call after discussing the issue for an hour. At this point, Destiny is alone and decides to watch PewDiePie's biggest OOPSIE, a video wherein PewDiePie recounts the promotion of E;R. During the video, PewDiePie plays a sound-bite from a prior video where he promotes E;R's death note review, and mocks anyone for suggesting this is nazi propaganda. Destiny watches thirty minutes of the review, questions how E;R manages to do such poor critiques of media for a living, and refuses to watch any more of "this low-iq shit". Destiny then requests that his chat direct him to some of E;R's "nazi shit", and is eventually told to skip to the thirty seven minute mark of the video where a Heather Heyer reference is made. From this point Destiny reacts to several nazi references made in E;R's videos including a Hitler speech played over dramatic music, and a montage of wealthy/influential Jewish individuals played over Orpheus in the Underworld concluding with a message of "securing an existence and future for human children". From these videos, Destiny eventually concludes that E;R is "maybe a little bit of a Nazi". Destiny eventually resumes PewDiePie's video and Hasan joins the call to get Destiny's position on the situation. Destiny informs Hasan that E;R is almost certainly attempting to red pill viewers on Nazi propaganda, and that he still has to finish PewDiePie's response video to draw a conclusion on him. After finishing PewDiePie's response video, Destiny concludes that PewDiePie is not a nazi but is likely just dumb politically.
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Hasan summarizes the PewDiePie debacle
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Hasan debates a Venezuelan regarding the country's economic collapse
On the same day Destiny and Hasan discussed PewDiePie, the pair had a conversation regarding whether the economic collapse of Venezuela was a product of socialism. [16] The conversation was initially spurred on after a chatter, Yiazmat, asserted that Destiny had let Hasan claim the country's economic collapse had nothing to do with Socialism.[17] Destiny responds that he had not seen any evidence linking socialism to Venezuela's collapse, and that it was more likely attributed to corruption prevalent throughout the government. Hasan also adds that the Venezuelan economy is heavily privatized.
Shortly after Destiny and Hasan's initial remarks, Yiazmat requests to join the call, and is eventually admitted into the discord room. Yiazmat, appearing to be quite emotional, makes his hatred for the Venezuelan government clear and goes on to reassert his position that Hasan is incorrect regarding his claim that "socialism has nothing to do with what happened" to the country. Yiazmat then points to several of the country's industries becoming nationalized, and the institution of various price controls. Destiny posits that Venezuela has been engaging in this nationalizing for quite some time, to which Yiazmat counters that the country had not engaged in such practices before Chávez. Yiazmat goes on to cite the "real socialism" undergone in Venezuela(aka seizing the means of production) as the primary cause for the country's strife, and criticizes Hasan previous attempts at comparing Scandinavian countries to Venezuela.
The conversation veers off into a semantic discussion on what constitutes "true socialism". Throughout the conversation, Yiazmat maintains that the nationalization of several key industries, and instituting of various price controls, is more than enough evidence of socialism occuring. While Hasan disagrees, asserting the problem was due in part to poor leadership, and imperialism from countries like the United States. Hasan would routinely attempt to point to other countries which have engaged in similar activities as Venezuela, and have not experienced economic collapse. Destiny also maintains that the collapse of the country was not a result of socialism, however he primarily asserts price-controls and poor economic policy were the primary cause for the country's downward spiral. Despite initially debating with Yiazmat, Destiny acted as a moderator for the two other individuals in the call, ensuring certain claims(i.e. causes of food shortages in Venezuela) were fact checked in real time and no fallacious arguments were made by either side.
Hasan(voice muffled with food): "Okay... printing money is something the United States does almost all the fucking time...and the reason why they did it, is so that poor people also had access to food."
Destiny: "Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait... chill okay... so your currency is backed by the strength of your economy... when the United States prints currency to cover its own debt, that printing is not done as a crisis play in order to save our economy, the United States does not print money in crisis to save our economy. Even the 2007 downturn was not like an extreme crisis where we had to save ourselves, in the same way that in Venezuela, there are people standing in line for like hours to buy fucking toilet paper... When Venezuela was printing money, they were doing it to literally bail themselves out of a fucked situation, but they did not have the same strength of their economy , so their bond ratings went to shit as a result of this bad monetary policy. Whereas in the US, we can print money, and that's fine, it's backed by our economy, Venezuela did not have the(same) economy." 14:10
Following the initial dispute, the conversation becomes more personal after Destiny inquires what Yiazmat's day-to-day life is like. Yiazmat becomes quite emotional during this segment, as he describes his parents' life-savings being stripped from them by the government. Following Yiazmat's emotionally charged retelling of his family history, Hasan is seemingly more hesitant to press Yiazmat on the issue any further, and the conversation eventually concludes.
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Reading Yiazmat's comment, initial remarks from Destiny and Hasan
Upon retrieving the Wikipedia page for Hugo Chávez, Destiny remarks the Venezuelan oil industry had been nationalized since the late 1970s, and that Chávez came in 1999. Yiazmat replies that he is unsure, but asserts Chávez still replaced several key workers in these industries with less competent workers. Hasan then adds that while all this is true, it has nothing to do with socialism. Yiazmat maintains that the nationalization of several industries is evidence of socialism occuring.
27:45 Yiazmat claims that some social programs instituted by the Venezuelan government wherein voters were given money and utilities like laundry machines contributed to the country's downfall. Hasan disagrees with this framing, and places the blame once more on poor management of a country. Destiny agrees with Hasan, and pushes back against Yiazmat's perspective as well.
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Hasan joins DGG chat
On December 24th, 2018 Hasan Joined DGG chat under the username "HasanAbi".[18]
Destiny IRL streams with with Andy Milonakis, Hasan, and Pokimane
On January 9th, 2019 Destiny streamed an IRL meetup with Hasan, Pokimane and Andy Milonakis. The group first streamed at a Korean Barbecue restaurant, and then a Bar. [19]
Destiny IRL streams with Hasan and Andy, gets very drunk
Some time around January 25, 2019, Destiny IRL streamed with Hasan and Andy Milonakis at a restaurant.[20] During the stream, Destiny became inebriated to the point where restaurant staff were forced to cut him off.
Highlights from Destiny's drunk escapades include:
- 4:26 Shortly after proclaiming himself the "master of manipulating Gyoza", Destiny proceeds to drop a dumpling on the floor. Destiny then picks the dumpling off the floor and eats it, to Hasan's disdain.
- 4:52 The restaurant manager walks in to greet Andy and the group. After shaking the manager's hand, Destiny decides to inform the manager: "I drank a little bit too much but i'm not causing trouble okay? I'm not hitting anybody or anything." Hasan questions why Destiny would even say this, to which Destiny recounts his casino experience dealing with drunk people. The manager then requests that Andy and Hasan ensure Destiny does not drive home, to which Destiny empathetically responds he would never want the owner to be held liable for his drunk driving. Following this interaction, Hasan concludes Destiny won that debate.
- 5:49 After staring at his phone confusedly, Destiny asks Andy if he paid for his portion of the meal asserting he does not want to "leech" off of him. The waitress then stops by, informing the table that Destiny is being cut off from any further alcoholic beverages.
- 6:10 Destiny lifts up his sweatshirt to reveal he has no guns on his person. Hasan shouts at Destiny for even implying he would be armed, Destiny responds "what if he looks up my license plate".
- 6:36 Destiny grabs Hasan's chest.
- 6:58 Destiny states he has empirical data on the best joke ever.
"So all of a sudden, a friend is out hunting with another friend, and they call 9-1-1. And he says: My friend is on the ground as he's in distress. And the 9-1-1 caller says: Okay, well what's wrong? And the guy says: I think he's dead. And then the first thing she says is: You need to make sure that he's dead first. And there's a long silence and then a gunshot. And the guy is like: okay now what?" -The empirically funniest joke ever according to a very drunk Destiny.
- 7:33 After Destiny attempts to grab Hasan's chest once more, Hasan tells him to stop. Destiny then asks why Hasan is being homophobic.
- 8:31 Destiny gives Andy $200, and tells him to leave the rest as a tip.
- 9:07 After Hasan denies a request to take a group photo with some individuals, Destiny questions why. Hasan responds it's because they did not want Destiny in the photo, and he wanted to stand in solidarity with his friend.
Hasan, Destiny, and Hbomberguy discuss politics, Brexit, and Darksydephil
On January 1, 2019 Destiny and Hasan discussed politics, Antisemitism, Brexit, and DarksydePhil with British youtuber Hbomberguy. [21] During their brief discussion on personal politics, all three parties eventually came to the conclusion that they are in favor of incremental changes towards a better society. The trio then discuss the veracity of the anti-semitism accusations levied towards British political leader labor Jeremy Corbyn, while the three agree antisemitism is present in British politics, they ultimately conclude that the accusations were superfluous. The topic of controversial British politicians, eventually leads to a discussion on Britain's upcoming withdrawal from the European Union(AKA Brexit). The primary contention in this topic being whether a second referendum on Brexit would be justified. Destiny put forth the argument that constantly redoing a vote until a particular outcome is achieved sets a poor precedent, while Hbomberguy argued that the vote won with a slim margin several years ago and voters were not quite as informed on the issue as they were presently(hence the need for another vote). Despite this initial disagreement, both parties end up agreeing important votes such as Brexit should never be held to a referendum.
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Personal Politics
Despite the initial disagreement, both Destiny and Hbomberguy agree the Brexit vote should never have been held up to a referendum to begin with. Following this, Hasan argues that Destiny has become "even more of a tankie" than he has, due to the authoritarian perspective he just presented. Destiny responds that in some cases democracy is a poor idea, providing the example of citizens potentially voting on monetary policy. Hasan laudes Hbomberguy for creating such a good analogy, and Destiny argues that it is in fact a horrible analogy. Destiny explains that Hbomberguy is essentially arguing "no referendum matters because you can always do another one." |
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Hasan and Destiny debate breaking news
On January 7, 2019 Hasan and Destiny debated the ethicacy of reporting on breaking news and the roles of journalists and commentators in shaping public perception. [22] This was among one of the first major on-stream disagreements the two would have, and was met with an overwhelmingly negative response from youtube comments(primarily criticising Hasan).[23]
The conversation begins with a discussion on right-wing political commentator NuanceBro, and a video he had made in response to Hasan's coverage over the death of Jazmine Barnes being a potential hate crime. Hasan goes on to describe how the eventual revelation that the shooting was in fact gang-related(and not a hate crime), resulted in his channel being brigaded by individuals accusing Hasan of "race-baiting", individuals criticizing him for not waiting for more information to come out, and the eventual release of NuanceBro's video. Hasan informs Destiny that he felt this criticism was unfair, arguing that he was merely parroting what major news sources at the time were stating. Destiny took issue with Hasan's perspective, and argued Hasan was irresponsible with his covering of the shooting, asserting he should have waited for all information relating to the event to be released.
"Here's my position on this...There's literally absolutely never ever ever ever...This is why I hate breaking news... There's never any value that comes out of covering these types of things, before all the information is released... Knowing about it a day or two or whatever earlier, it never gives you anything better, and there's so much potential harm that can come from doing it early, that's why I just try to avoid making any comment" - Destiny 4:32
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The shooting
However, the case took a significant turn when the actual suspects, Eric Black Jr. and Larry Woodruffe, both African American males, were arrested following a tip-off. They were charged with capital murder, and it emerged that the shooting was a case of mistaken identity; the suspects had believed they were attacking individuals from a different vehicle due to an ongoing gang-feud. This revelation led to a controversy over the initial media coverage and public discourse, which had strongly focused on the racial angle based on the first description provided by witnesses.[24] Hasan was among the individuals who took part in this media coverage.
2:09 Shortly after releasing his video, Hasan describes enduring brigading when new information about the shooting surfaces, identifying the shooters as black, which rules out the hate-crime motive. People accuse him of "race-baiting" and criticize him for not waiting for "all the facts to come out." Hasan defends himself by arguing that he was working with the information available just as any news organization would. Hasan goes on to state the criticism he receives is unjustified as he issued a correction and deleted the video of his coverage. 8:40 Hasan argues that if "the information wasn't solid" he would not have worked with it. Destiny rejects this characterization, arguing Hasan "did not work towards anything to get to the hate-crime". Hasan counters, stating he did not assert anything in the situation was a hate-crime, and merely decided to speak on the issue at the time. Destiny tells Hasan to chill, and states he's doing what NuanceBro does when he decides to discuss African American crime statistics. 11:57 Hasan states he has never been in a situation where the police officers and all eyewitness testimony was incorrect, and argues once more he was justified in covering the video. 25:33 Hasan asserts he cannot wait for all the facts to come out, as it would be at a detriment to his job. Destiny disagrees, and posits a hypothetical to Hasan: "Let's say you report the facts about some story, the facts are all true... let's say that from those facts, you could draw three or four likely scenarios that could have happened. Do you think it would be responsible to talk about any of those scenarios without having further facts to confirm them... You're speculating based off incomplete facts on a narrative you can't support." - Destiny Hasan responds once more that his job is to "opine", and he was justified in covering the story with the facts he had. 28:40 Destiny describes a hypothetical scenario where an arab was accused of a terrorist attack, and right-wing pundits decided to discuss arab extremism as a whole. Hasan agrees the pundits would be justified. 38:55 Hasan states his job isn't to report the news uncritically, and flow a narrative around it. Destiny, not paying attention to what Hasan was saying, is incredulous by a bold poker move linked to him by a chatter.
4:31,8:29,10:46, 12:34, 15:50 Destiny routinely asserts that there was no reason for Hasan to cover this event before any more information had come out, and there was no value to be gained from doing so. 18:45 Destiny argues Hasan could have covered the immediate news regarding the shooting without framing a narrative, and should not have decided to leverage the situation to discuss hate-crimes. When is the right time to cover news stories?
35:28 Hasan states he has a very limited window to get a message across, and must cover facts pertaining to breaking news immediately. |
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Hasan and Destiny IRL stream at a mall
On January 29, 2019, Hasan and Destiny went on a romantic stroll IRL streamed at a mall. [25]
Destiny, Hasan, Vaush, and RemTheBathBoi debate the necessity of philosophical "grounding" WIP
On March 23, 2019 Hasan,Rem, Vaush, and Destiny engaged in a heated discussion on the necessity of a foundational philosophical understanding for those engaging in political advocacy.[26] In the discussion, Rem argued that political pundits have a responsibility to ensure their arguments are solidly grounded. Conversely ,Hasan and Vaush argued such a position is unfeasible, particularly in the context of the fast-paced and often superficial nature of online discourse.
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How will Article 13 change YouTube and Twitch? ft. Hasanabi WIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPtdhXmRgCo
Hasan and Destiny debate abortion WIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZOr-ruA_XM
I don't really know if you're pretending or not... ft. HasanAbi & Emmia WIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stdrVr9BHkE
Hasanabi And Destiny BREAK UP Over Kamala Misinformation WIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLfAuWe3xho
Hasanabi And Destiny BREAK UP Aftermath WIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCsvkP_sVQw
Disagreements with Destiny WIP
Hasan Claims to "own" Destiny in a debate regarding the successfulness of Donald Trump as a Republican
On January 24, 2024 Hasan claims to have "owned" Destiny in one of their initial discussions regarding the successfulness of Donald Trump as a Republican. Hasan claims to be proven correct as Trump was able to stack the supreme court, "destroy" regulatory agencies, and offer "fat" tax cuts.[27]
During the discussion, Hasan claims Trump has been incredibly successful as a Republican president because his underlying positions are just "regular fucking conservative principles". Hasan elaborates that his positions are all the "modern GOP positions" but his rhetoric is just different, and is just more appealing to his base voters. He goes on to point to things such as the Republican Tax plan, the "destruction" of the EPA", and the "destruction" of the financial protection bureau. He concludes that this is all "regular republican shit" that Trump was able to accomplish in an authoritarian fashion.[28]
Destiny claims that Trump has caused a very deep division within the Republican party(Destiny calls it the Tea party on crack), citing instances such as Trumples mocking Mccain for being a war hero making it very difficult for them to see eye-to-eye with other Republicans. Destiny then discuss how Trump fans and supporters "fucking hate" establishment Republicans, citing the tendency of these groups to trash moderate Republicans just as hard as certain left leaning groups(i.e. calling them Rhinos). Destiny concludes that he's unsure what kind of damage will happen to the party once Trump is gone, pointing to how a candidate like Rubio could have difficulty pandering to this new-extreme base.[29]
Hasan once again disagrees with this, and maintains his prior position that Trump still advocates for "staple Republican positions". He then makes the point that Republicans will always vote for whoever "triggers the libs" the most. Destiny agreed with this in the end, but maintained they will just have to see what happens after the midterms to the party.
MrDeadMoth domestic abuse situation
On December 12, 2018 Destiny and Hasan debated the circumstances surrounding a domestic abuse situation involving Fortnite streamer MrDeadMoth. [30] Hasan, while of the opinion MrDeadMoth's wife did take steps to escalate the situation, maintains that MrDeadMoth bore the brunt of the blame in the situation for physically retaliating against his partner. Destiny took the contrary position, stating that while MrDeadMoth's physical response should not be excused, the wife's persistent approach, escalation, and starting of the physical altercation, should be viewed as provoking or exacerbating the situation.
Breaking News
On January 7, 2019 Destiny and Hasan debated the ethicacy of reporting on breaking news and the roles of journalists and commentators in shaping public perception. Hasan, after reporting a recent shooting may have been racially charged, was accused of "race-baiting" after more information was released revealing that the shooting was in fact gang-related(not a hate crime). Hasan felt this criticism was unwarranted, claiming he was merely working with the facts he had at the time and that he could not waiting for more facts to come out as it would be to the detriment of his job. Destiny took issue with this perspective, arguing it was irresponsible of Hasan to cover the shooting before more information was released. Moreover, Destiny argued that Hasan should have avoided constructing a narrative around hate crimes, highlighting the hypocrisy Hasan would show if a right-leaning commentator speculated about Arabs following a bombing.
Notable Clips, Videos, and Tweets and Controversies WIP
Controversies
Throughout his career, Piker has been involved in several controversies, often stemming from his outspoken political views. In 2019, he faced backlash for comments made during a Twitch stream about the September 11 attacks and brave Mujahideen fighters fucking the eye hole of U.S. Representative Dan Crenshaw. Piker later apologized for the remarks, stating that they were "inappropriate and offensive."
During the run of Hasan's show "Bro Tips", hosted on The Young Turks, he made a number of controversial comments in which he accused Lady Gaga of having a penis, and gave viewers instructions on how to isolate women from their friends, then coerce them into sexual intercourse. [citation needed ]
"Remember, old enough to count, old enough to mount." - Hasan 'The Brofessor' Piker [citation needed ]
"It's time to get out of here and it's time to separate her from her herd, meaning her crowd of girlfriends who are going to do their best to cockblock you because they're fat and ulgy." - Hasan 'The Brofessor' Piker [citation needed ]
"Brotip: If you stand in front of the door, she can't leave." - Hasan 'The Brofessor' Piker [citation needed ]
Controversial quotes
- Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
- “I paved it on my own”
- "I live on a basic necessity budget"
- "Twitch leak"
- "I make the same amount of money as a doctor"
- "A real job ... doesn't suck the soul out of you in the same way that ... streaming absolutely will."
- "I'm a propagandist, for the record."
- "At least Patrick Henry college, is like, doing one good thing. Which is that like, if you have these fucking millionaire/billionaire WASP fail-sons, at least taking them out of other colleges so they can only do date-rape to millionaire/billionaire fail-daughters, is like in some respects, you know from a utilitarian perspective of course, a little bit better, you know what I mean? Taking these guys and... putting them in a pen with one another, is ultimately getting them away from the broader society."
External Links
References
- ↑ The Most Oppressed Group - Pre-debate Debate with Hasan Piker. (October 9, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved January 29, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9iPLU3fAFA
- ↑ POLITICON - DESTINY REACTS. (October 22, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved January 19, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uenf3uYDKBE
- ↑ Politicon 2018 - Post-debate Debate with Hasan Piker. (October 24, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved January 19, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jRhGapcaK4
- ↑ Meeting with Hasanabi. (Nov 1, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved February 12, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVf1hMt-XbI
- ↑ Richard Lewis Semantics Expert. (November 2, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved February 2, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1OXF6IEBFc
- ↑ Hasan’s Richard Lewis Debate - Post-debate Debate with Hasan Piker. (November 9, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved February 2, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7wtmabgQU8
- ↑ CNN, A. by Z. B. W. (February 27, 2018). Trump’s attacks on Judge Curiel are still jarring to read. CNN. https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/27/politics/judge-curiel-trump-border-wall/index.html
- ↑ At Hasan’s place ft. Felklmao. (Dec 1, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved February 20, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwiRb8RveDQ
- ↑ Talk with Hasan - McDonnald’s employee kicking teenagers out. (Dec 3, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved February 20, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTpTLj4Lg9A
- ↑ Talk with Hasan - Doctor kicked out of airplane. (Dec 4, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved February 20, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eBl1Ntx45A
- ↑ Talk with Hasan - Disciplining employee - School janitor case. (Dec 6, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved February 20, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RYq-F6AUcU
- ↑ https://livestreamfails.com/post/36043
- ↑ https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/a5bdn3/destinys_take_on_mrdeadmoths_abuse_clip/
- ↑ Domestic abuse - MrDeadMoth hits wife ft. MrMouton, Hasan, WhiteNervosa. (Dec 12, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved March 1, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RAZHElDZL8
- ↑ Destiny. (December 7, 2018). PewDiePie and E;R ft. Hasanabi. In YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ENmudByKig
- ↑ Talking with a venezuelan about Venezuela ft. Hasanabi. (December 22, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved February 26, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDiS7WdrzQg
- ↑ https://rustlesearch.dev/surrounds?channel=Destinygg&date=2018-12-15T04%3A44%3A52.000Z&username=yiazmat
- ↑ https://rustlesearch.dev/surrounds?channel=Destinygg&date=2018-12-24T06%3A45%3A50.000Z&username=hasanabi
- ↑ 2019-01-09 - irl stream with andy, hasan, bella and poki at kbbq, bar. (2/8/2020). www.youtube.com. Retrieved March 19, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3FdEGY9Xo8
- ↑ STOP JĘRKIŃG ME OFF. (Jan 25, 2019). Www.youtube.com. Retrieved March 19, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22L8ynUNxsc
- ↑ There’s something you value more than democracy... ft. Hasan Piker & H.Bomberguy. (Jan 3, 2019). www.youtube.com. Retrieved March 20, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyOnBYaLFwY
- ↑ I F#%*ING HATE BREAKING NEWS FT. HASAN PIKER. (Jan 9, 2019). www.youtube.com. Retrieved March 22, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FcDO7jYQQ8
- ↑ Media:HasanBreakingNewsComments.png
- ↑ https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/1/10/18175589/jazmine-barnes-shooting-houston-texas-race
- ↑ I DIDN’T KNOW I GRABBED THE MAGNUM XXXL’S. (Jan 29, 2019). www.youtube.com. Retrieved April 2, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4V1zrh0W4A
- ↑ Streamer Drama ft. Hasanabi, Vaush, Marty & RemTheBathBoi. (Mar 23, 2019). www.youtube.com. Retrieved April 3, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjszEJBKWRs
- ↑ Ben Shapiro vs Destiny Debate | HasanAbi reacts to Lex Fridman Podcast. (Jan 24, 2024 ). www.youtube.com. Retrieved April 4, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i9UYIkDTsY&t=4752s
- ↑ ( Oct 23, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved April 4, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9iPLU3fAFA&t=5272s
- ↑ The Most Oppressed Group - Pre-debate Debate with Hasan Piker. (Oct 23, 2018). Www.youtube.com. Retrieved April 4, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9iPLU3fAFA&t=5424s
- ↑ Domestic abuse - MrDeadMoth hits wife ft. MrMouton, Hasan, WhiteNervosa. (Dec 12, 2018). www.youtube.com. Retrieved March 1, 2024, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RAZHElDZL8