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| qualifications = GED, Honorable Discharge | | qualifications = GED, Honorable Discharge | ||
| occupation = Tech Startups, Real Estate | | occupation = Tech Startups, Real Estate, {{nowrap|{{wiki|USCG|Seaman}} <small>''(Formerly)''</small>}} | ||
| country = USA | | country = USA | ||
| website = [https://harknesslabs.com harknesslabs.com] | | website = [https://harknesslabs.com harknesslabs.com] | ||
| website2 = [https://redact.dev redact.dev] | |||
| twitter = dancantstream | | twitter = dancantstream | ||
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| youtube = dancantstream | | youtube = dancantstream | ||
| stock = [https://manifold.markets/memestiny/dan-stock-permanent Dan Stock] | | stock = [https://manifold.markets/memestiny/dan-stock-permanent Dan Stock] | ||
| awards = [[File:DestinyAwards.png|35px]] [[Destiny_Awards#Buddy_of_the_Year|2020 Buddy {{tooltip|of the Year|OTY}}]] | | awards = [[File:DestinyAwards.png|35px]] [[Destiny_Awards#Buddy_of_the_Year|2020 Buddy {{tooltip|of the Year|OTY}}]] | ||
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'''Dan'''—also known by his online tag '''Dancantstream'''—is a prolific Rust player (with over 14,000 hours), CEO of [https://redact.dev redact.dev], co-host of the [[Anything Else?]] | '''Dan'''—also known by his online tag '''Dancantstream'''—is a prolific Rust player (with over 14,000 hours), CEO of [https://redact.dev redact.dev], co-host of the ''[[Anything Else?]] ''podcast with [[Destiny]] as well as being the most dedicated cat enjoyer in [[DGG]]. | ||
Dan was originally a fan of Destiny, | Dan was originally a fan of Destiny, trying to recruit him off of {{wiki|Ustream}} to {{wiki|Tinychat}} in 2009 and started chatting around this time. Dan was a frequent guest on Destiny's stream from 2016 to 2022 along with [[MrMouton]], until he took a hiatus during 2023 and later returned in February of 2024 to resume his prominent position in the stream as a frequent guest, eventually announcing that he and Destiny would be starting ''Anything Else?''. | ||
Dan's on-stream role has typically been | Dan's on-stream role has typically been the {{wiki|Foil_(narrative)|foil}} of Destiny, orbiters and other on-stream guests; as well as sometimes banning or [[nuke|nuking]] [[chatters]]. | ||
On August 19, 2024 Dan began [https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/Dan%27s_personal_channel_uploads uploading content] to his [https://www.youtube.com/@dansaltman/videos personal youtube channel] with the goal of covering daily news and topics he is garnering expertise in. | |||
Dan used to host the [[Startups Podcast]] with Destiny. | Dan used to host the [[Startups Podcast]] with Destiny. | ||
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=== Dan debates power supplies with MrMouton and Destiny WIP === | === Dan debates power supplies with MrMouton and Destiny === | ||
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= | {{#ev:youtube|https://https://youtu.be/9jRhGapcaK4|300px|right| ''' Politicon 2018 - Post-debate Debate with Hasan Piker.'''}} | ||
On October 25, 2020 Dan, Destiny, and MrMouton debated the usefulness of power supplies, particularly for gaming setups. <ref> Destiny. (2020, October 25). Are Power Supplies Useful? Arguing w/ Mouton and Dan. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM4V69u8bak </ref> Following a disturbing recollection from MrMouton describing how he forced himself to vomit after consuming a bagel that had sat out for two hours, Dan asks Destiny what his plans are for the day. Destiny responds he's going to be doing a sponsorship for an [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply Uninterruptible Power Supply](UPS): [https://www.apc.com/us/en/product/BGM1500B/apc-backups-pro-1500va-for-gaming-120v-pure-sinewave-lcd-black-3-usb-charging-ports-10-nema-outlets-4-surge/ The APC UPS 1500 VA for Gaming]. Dan criticized the "gaming" label on the sponsorship as merely a price increase tactic, arguing that one could simply buy a "life-sized anime plushie," place a UPS inside it, and get the same result. Dan then linked a "business-level" UPS, which Destiny and MrMouton mocked for its "boring" appearance. | |||
The conversation continues, and Dan questions what the hold up is on Lithium powered UPS's. Dan suggested thats that while more expensive, Lithium batteries could offer longer-lasting power compared to traditional batteries used in UPS systems. Destiny speculated that Lithium batteries may not be able to hold a large amount of charge for an extended period, and safety may be a concern. Dan then argues that one could utilize an [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18650_battery 18650 battery] to power the UBC as a cheaper alternative-slightly safer-alternative. MrMouton suggests that Dan should develop this product if he's so sure of it, to which Dan states he has "too many pots in the fire" and is currently working on [https://redact.dev/ redact.dev]. | |||
A chatter then informs Destiny that he is able to run a very power demanding setup for at least an hour on a $160 UPS. The three then discuss the loading times of their respective UPS's. Following this, another chatter inquires on the benefits of UPS's. Destiny responds that it's nice to be able to save one's work in the midst of a power-outage, Dan chimes in and adds that an abrupt power outage may also damage one's PC. Destiny takes issue with Dan's response and the two deliberate(heatedly) for some time the potentiality for a power-outage to damage one's PC. Following a similarly heated debate on the ability of a surge protector to protect one's PC setup, Destiny watches a clip of Dan misspeaking, and the call concludes. | |||
{| class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" | |||
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*[https://youtu.be/tM4V69u8bak?t=0 0:00] Destiny gives a PSA regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19 COVID-19]. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/tM4V69u8bak?t=71 1:11] MrMouton discusses forcing himself to puke after eating an old bagel. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/tM4V69u8bak?t=194 3:14] Destiny discusses his power supply sponsorship. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/tM4V69u8bak?t=225 3:45] Dan mocks the gaming label on the sponsorship, links a "business-level" UPS and is mocked for linking a upc that "looks like shit". | |||
* [https://youtu.be/tM4V69u8bak?t=428 7:08] The trio discuss Lithium batteries. Dan questions why they aren't utilized in UPS's, Destiny argues they may be too dangerous. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/tM4V69u8bak?t=635 10:35] Dan explains how one could make a more affordable Lithium powered UBC. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/tM4V69u8bak?t=667 11:07] Dan discusses redact.dev. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/tM4V69u8bak?t=710 11:50] A chatter informs Destiny that a $160 UPS he was looking at is able to run a very power demanding pc for an hour. The trio then discuss UPS loading times. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/tM4V69u8bak?t=860 14:20] Destiny and Dan discuss the benefits of a UPS. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/tM4V69u8bak?t=1010 16:50] Destiny and MrMouton mock Dan for having a "Taiwanese power supply". | |||
* [https://youtu.be/tM4V69u8bak?t=1110 18:30] the trio discuss the benefits of surge protectors. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/tM4V69u8bak?t=1216 20:16] Destiny watches a clip of Dan misspeaking. | |||
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=== Dan talks with Destiny(Responding to Criticism, The Boys, Crypto, DGG coin, Helping Biden) === | |||
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On July 23, 2022 Dan joined Destiny's stream to discuss Twitter, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series) The Boys], Cryptocurrency, and Biden.<ref> DalibanHQ Highlights. (2022, July 23). Destiny Talks w/ Dan (Responding to Criticism, The Boys, Crypto, DGG coin, Helping Biden). YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDhD4pNOY8o </ref> The discussion began with Dan joining the call after Destiny proclaimed his interactions with the left were slowly making him more "racist and sexist at the same time". Dan responds by advising Destiny not to let his hatred of the far-left push him towards another extreme, and that Destiny primary focus should be on making "Liberalism seem cool". Dan goes on to suggest that Destiny should consider focussing on his optics a bit more, and that it has been a rough year to be a Destiny fan. In response, Destiny accuses Dan(lightheartedly) of being disconnected and old, states that this has been the best year he has had career-wise, and informs Dan that his overuse of melatonin has likely addled his brain. | |||
The conversation continues, and Dan fruitlessly attempts to discuss an article relating to the potential obsolescence of submarines. Upon Destiny's hesitancy to stake out a position on the subject, Dan proclaims that talking with Destiny is "like pulling teeth sometimes". Destiny responds that his hesitancy stems from a fear of being lambasted by his subreddit for every assertion he doesn't fully qualify, and points to [https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/vzz92i/are_destiny_and_dan_retarded_or_is_this_what/ a hate thread] they both received on r/Destiny because they didn't recall certain details about The Boys(a TV series). Dan informs Destiny that every person in that thread has likely never experienced sexual intercourse, and the two discuss the ridiculousness of the thread(particularly [https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/vzz92i/are_destiny_and_dan_retarded_or_is_this_what/igbd7cd/ a comment] where they were both accused of showing early signs of Alzheimer's) as well as their issues with the television show for some time. Dan and Destiny argue that the over prevalence of heros, and the inability to discern which are invincible/bulletproof, has made the show a shadow of its former self. The two ultimately conclude the show is for dumb people. | |||
Dan and Destiny then discuss cryptocurrency for some time. Dan begins this conversation by asking Destiny if he would ever invest in bitcoin again. Destiny informs Dan that he currently holds around .4 coins(~$13,000)in crypto presently, but would probably never invest a large-sum again. Dan then asks Destiny how much longer they'll "have to put up with" NFTs, and expresses his overall disdain with similar crypto-schemes as a concept. Dan argues that cryptocurrency should probably be outlawed, given the amount of nefarious underdealings and "rugpulls" surrounding the currency. Dan further asserts that the true victims of crypto are the poor/uninformed individuals who bought into the hype of the currency at its peak, and invested an inordinate amount of their wealth into a very speculative investment vehicle. Destiny agrees, and points out that cryptocurrency has spawned a "whole generation of scammers" looking for the next way to rob people of their savings through similar investment schemes. Despite the aforementioned misgivings with cryptocurrencies, Dan does concede that the ability of such a currency to prevent "chargebacks" should be commended. | |||
Following the crypto discussion, Dan asks Destiny what he would do if he was placed in an advisory position to President Biden, and tasked with finding a way to drive up the president's approval rating. The two brainstorm the following: | |||
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[https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=1275 1.] Dan suggests that the people want girlfriends, and the best path forward to foster said relationships is to create state-owned dating apps( à la [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinder_(app) Tinder]) with a mandated profile to its citizens.<br> | |||
[https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=1339 2.] Destiny suggests that Biden should do cool things like snowboarding, or assassinating [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin Putin]. Dan was amiable to the former suggestion while hesitant to the latter.<br> | |||
[https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=1390 3.] Destiny suggests that Biden could undo the revocation of permits on oil drilling in federal lands. Dan argues that this would be a poor idea as Biden would want to implement some restrictions on selling of said oil to only domestic consumers, which Oil companies would find a way to circumvent.<br> | |||
[https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=1426 4.] A chatter suggests that Biden could implement trains, to which Dan responds | |||
<blockquote>"Whoever said trains, look inside yourself and know that nobody cares about trains, no one. The only people that care about trains are leftists, that's it... Trains and libraries. You know what? Get rid of all the libraries, huge savings that we can have there." | |||
:- Dan on trains and libraries(Dan later admits the library portion was a joke) </blockquote> | |||
[https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=1641 5.] A chatter suggests that Biden should get rid of Social Security to aid his approval rating. Destiny responds that this would be the worst possible thing Biden could ever do, and would negatively impact his largest voter base. Dan chimes in that the chatter Destiny responded to tends to type in all caps about everything, and with a great(undeserved) level of authority. Dan further asserts that said chatter doesn't actually "know shit". | |||
The conversation eventually wraps up as Dan departs from the call, shortly after informing Destiny he's going to make burgers on his new griddle. | |||
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* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=2 0:02] Destiny informs Dan that he's becoming racist and sexist at the same time. Dan advises Destiny to not let his hatred of the far-left push him in the other direction. Dan then tells Destiny that his mission should be about making Liberalism seem "cool". | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=40 0:40] Dan informs Destiny that "we care about optics in this house", to which Destiny responds "you can't take twitter from me". | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=57 0:57] Dan laments how it's been a "rough year" to be a Destiny fan. Destiny accuses Dan of being disconnected, and asserts this has been the best year he's had. Destiny then calls Dan old. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=87 1:27] Dan discusses an article he disagrees with regarding how submarines may be deemed obsolete following advances in ai/radar technology. Dan argues that the amount of debris prevalent within the ocean would aid in the ability of hiding a submarine, regardless of technological advances. Upon being pressed for a response, Destiny responds he would need to do research before giving a definitive opinion, to which Dan accuses Destiny of being no fun. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=202 3:22] Dan informs Destiny that talking to him is like pulling teeth sometimes. Destiny responds that he has to qualify every assertion he makes, and points to [https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/vzz92i/are_destiny_and_dan_retarded_or_is_this_what/ a hate thread] they both received on r/destiny because they "didn't remember every fucking detail about The Boys". Dan informs Destiny that every person in that thread is likely a virgin, and the two discuss the ridiculousness of the thread(particularly the portion where they were both accused of showing early signs of Alzheimer's) and their issues with The Boys for some time. Destiny and Dan's primary issues with the show are the overwhelming amount of superheros as the series progressed, and the difficulty in discerning which heroes are invincible. Dan eventually concludes that the show is simply for dumb people. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=514 8:34] Dan asks Destiny what other shows he has seen, Destiny does not respond, so Dan discusses potential shows he could watch. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=627 10:27] Dan informs Destiny he has been looking into investing in precious metals such as gold. The two then discuss the inconsistencies of such investment vehicles in tracking with inflation. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=719 11:59] Dan asks Destiny if he would ever invest in bitcoin again, Destiny informs Dan that he currently holds around .4 coins(~$13,000)in crypto. Dan asks Destiny if he would ever consider dropping $100k into a cryptocurrency, Destiny replies that he probably would never do so, and Dan agrees. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=833 13:53] Dan asks Destiny how much longer they'll "have to put up with" NFTs, and the two discuss for some time. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=873 14:33] Dan argues that cryptocurrency should probably be outlawed, given the amount of nefarious underdealing and "rugpulls" surrounding it. Destiny jokingly suggests that they should start a DGG coin with the goal of rugpulling $5 million. Dan continues, arguing that the true victims of crypto are the poor/uninformed individuals who bought into the hype of the currency and invested an inordinate amount of their wealth into a very speculative investment vehicle. Destiny agrees, and points out that cryptocurrency has spawned a "whole generation of scammers" looking for the next way to rob people of their savings through similar investment schemes. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=1078 17:58] Dan points to the one thing he enjoys about cryptocurrency, being the inability to refund the coin after it's purchased, thereby preventing any potential chargebacks. Destiny argues that this "no-refund" system is prevalent in credit cards as well, pointing to how some credit card issuers/processors may make it difficult for a consumer to issue a chargeback. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=1260 21:00] Destiny predicts that marijuana will be federally legal in their lifetime. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=1275 21:15] Dan asks Destiny what he would advise Biden to do to alleviate the President's diminishing popularity. Destiny argues it's hard to say, and there's not much the president can do at the moment. Dan responds that the people want girlfriends, and the best path forward to foster said relationships is to create state-owned dating apps( à la [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinder_(app) Tinder]) with a mandated profile to its citizens. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=1339 22:19] Destiny suggests that Biden should do cool things like snowboarding, or assassinating [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin Putin]. Dan was amiable to the former suggestion while hesitant to the latter. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=1390 23:10] Destiny suggests that Biden could undo the revocation of permits on oil drilling in federal lands. Dan argues that this would be a poor idea as Biden would want to implement some restrictions on selling of said oil to only domestic consumers, which Oil companies would find a way to circumvent. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=1426 23:46] A chatter suggests that Biden could implement trains, to which Dan responds:"Whoever said trains, look inside yourself and know that nobody cares about trains, no one. The only people that care about trains are leftists, that's it... Trains and libraries, you know what? Get rid of all the libraries, huge savings that we can have there." Dan mentions that this is a joke, and goes on to ask Destiny who he believes to be the most organized/militant group online to be. Destiny guesses vtubers, and Dan responds that it's librarians. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=1576 26:16] Dan aks if states can "make things illegal that are legal federally". Destiny responds that he has no idea, and that they should ask [[Pisco]]. Dan responds that Pisco would likely know nothing about this. | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=1641 27:21] A chatter suggests that Biden should get rid of Social Security to aid his approval rating. Destiny responds that this would be the worst possible thing Biden could ever do and would negatively impact his largest voter base. Dan chimes in that the chatter Destiny responded to tends to type in all caps about everything with a great level of authority, and doesn't actually "know shit". | |||
* [https://youtu.be/xDhD4pNOY8o?t=1764 29:24] Dan informs Destiny that he's going to make some burgers for his family on his new griddle, and departs from the call. | |||
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=== Why Intel's Meltdown Might Be A Huge Opportunity WIP === | |||
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yJf0JgQYic | |||
== Faceblindness == | |||
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A list of random people that Dan has (usually) erroneously compared to others. | |||
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| [https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/trump-assassination-attempt-shooting-victim-firefighter-shielded-family-gunshots-4480051 Corey Comperatore]<br>[[File:DanFaceBlindComperatore.png|100px|center]] | |||
|colspan=2| {{wiki|Arnold_Vosloo|Arnold Vosloo}}<br>[[File:DanFaceblindImhotep.png|100px|center]] | |||
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| [https://x.com/taylerusa?lang=en Tayler Hansen]<br>[[File:DanFaceblindHatian.jpg|100px|center]] | |||
|colspan=2| [[Hasan_Piker|Hasan Piker]]<br>[[File:Hasan_Piker_2018_(cropped).jpg|100px|center]] | |||
| [ {{small|'''Only available to Anything Else Patreons. 9/11/2024 at 1:23:42'''}} ] | |||
|{{table green}}| [https://wiki.destiny.gg/view/File:DanFaceblindHatianPoll.jpg 53%] | |||
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== Notable Memes == | == Notable Memes == |
Latest revision as of 00:42, 12 September 2024
Dan | |
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Person | |
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Status | Poggers |
Political Alignment | Neo Liberal |
Qualifications | GED, Honorable Discharge |
Occupation | Tech Startups, Real Estate, Seaman (Formerly) |
Age | 40 |
Country of origin | USA |
Media | |
Websites | harknesslabs.com |
redact.dev | |
Twitters | dancantstream |
dbl | |
Youtube | dancantstream |
Manifolds Market | Dan Stock |
Other | |
Awards | 2020 Buddy OTY |
DGG Chat Username | dancantstream |
Dan—also known by his online tag Dancantstream—is a prolific Rust player (with over 14,000 hours), CEO of redact.dev, co-host of the Anything Else? podcast with Destiny as well as being the most dedicated cat enjoyer in DGG.
Dan was originally a fan of Destiny, trying to recruit him off of Ustream to Tinychat in 2009 and started chatting around this time. Dan was a frequent guest on Destiny's stream from 2016 to 2022 along with MrMouton, until he took a hiatus during 2023 and later returned in February of 2024 to resume his prominent position in the stream as a frequent guest, eventually announcing that he and Destiny would be starting Anything Else?.
Dan's on-stream role has typically been the foil of Destiny, orbiters and other on-stream guests; as well as sometimes banning or nuking chatters.
On August 19, 2024 Dan began uploading content to his personal youtube channel with the goal of covering daily news and topics he is garnering expertise in.
Dan used to host the Startups Podcast with Destiny.
Awards
Buddy of the Year
Dan was nominated for the Buddy of the Year award for 4 years in a row, winning 2 times (2020 and 2021) and narrowly losing to Aba in 2022 by 2.6% of the vote. He was not nominated in 2023.
Spin-off Streamer of the Year
In 2020, (the only year the award was presented) Dan received 2nd place in the overall voting for Spin-off Streamer of the Year.
Emotes
- Main Article: Emotes
Dan has several emotes attributed to him and/or used in relation to him.
PEPE
- Main Article: PEPE
To the chagrin of many chatters, Dan is a firm and unwavering PEPE poster, boasting an exceptionally rare 100% PEPE post rate, qualifying him as a pure PEPE Extremist, only referring to the competition as YE*
Notable on-stream appearances with Destiny
The Big Rust Memer Meeting
The Big Rust Memer Meeting was one of the first on-stream appearances in which Dan was present. Dan makes a minor appearance in the video as his performance in the Rust Group is reviewed by Destiny getting briefly verbally berated for "working" and not mining. Only level 13 .
Esportsbatman is also featured in the video.
Dan discusses Twitch TOS & Nudity with Destiny and Devin Nash
On February 8, 2018, Dan, Destiny and, Devin Nash engaged in an hour long discussion on the topic of Twitch's reformed terms of service.[1] During the discussion, the trio discussed updates to the rules regarding on-stream nudity, clothing, sexually suggestive content, and regulations regarding off-platform behavior. Destiny argued that the language in the new terms of service appeared "very precise," citing the "mall appropriate" stipulation in the rules as an example. In contrast, Devin felt much was still left up to interpretation by Twitch's moderators, especially with regards to what may be deemed "hateful" or "sexually suggestive".
Destiny and Devin eventually discuss the enformencent of Twitch's terms of service "off-platform". Destiny argues such regulations should warrant the establishment of Twitch partners as W-2 employees. While Devin agrees with Destiny "morally", he stipulates that everything action a content creator makes both on and off-platform, is a function of the platform. Devin cites the need for twitch to remove a content creator poorly conducting themselves off-platform in order to appease sponsors. Devin caveats this position, arguing that Twitch Moderation may be too quick to "pull the trigger" on certain individuals given this new rule.
A discussion on the "exclusivity" requirement for Twitch Partners arises, during which Devin and Destiny discuss the fairness of Twitch Partners being restricted to streaming on one platform. Devin argues that the challenges faced by other streaming services in attempting to "organically" foster a new platform are too steep, especially when faced with a heavily established one in Twitch. Devin goes on to state that no platform exists which offers a compelling enough competitive advantage for streamers to switch platforms. Dan joins the conversation, and asserts that Destiny could potentially capture a whole new audience with a move to another service such as YouTube.
The trio continue to review the new Terms of Service, and take particular issue with regards to the wording of the established harassment standards. While the standards maintain context and intent are key in determining whether moderation action should be taken, the following sentence of the stipulation makes it appear as if context is not a factor. Dan argues that the contract appears to be giving the moderation team much "weasel-room" to interpret situations as they please. Dan then provides the example of Destiny jokingly threatening a duo in a game, and potentially being clipped out of context. Dan later identifies that past content in VODs may be subject to these harassment guidelines, and warns Destiny that he may be forced to delete all VODs both on Twitch and YouTube.
Dan discusses Investment, Real Estate and Stocks with Destiny and Devin Nash
On October 4, 2018, Dan, Destiny, and Devin Nash, held a brief debate on investment Real Estate and stocks.[2]
The video starts with Destiny expressing his gratitude for being surrounded by many successful people, crediting them for their positive influence on his life, specifically naming Dan and Devin as examples. He attributes his increased reading and more efficient email management to Devin, and humorously mentions that Dan has made him consider investing in real estate. On the topic of real estate, Dan brings up a fellow streamer and securities trader, Reckful. Dan points to Reckful's seemingly inaccurate belief that the rising stock price of Amazon indicates a poor time to purchase real estate. Destiny admits he agrees with Reckful's stance, arguing that given the risky and undiversified nature of real estate, a stock purchase may be safer. Dan and Devin strongly disagree with Destiny's position, arguing that Real Estate is much more risk-averse than stocks, and proceed to spend the remainder of the call arguing with Destiny.
Throughout the call, Destiny questions why more individuals do not invest in real estate if it is such a sure investment as Dan and Devin claim. He values the ability to liquidate a stock at any moment and asserts that real estate assets require much more maintenance in comparison. In response, Dan and Devin argue that Destiny overestimates the intelligence of high-net-worth individuals, particularly those who do not invest in real estate. They contend that real estate management is not as cumbersome as Destiny imagines and that he overvalues the ability to quickly liquidate an asset.
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Dan and Destiny debate the Responsibility of Harm with Rem
On May 28, 2019, Dan, Destiny, and Rem engage in a heated discussion over the responsibility of harm. [3] The conversation kicks off following Destiny's introduction of Peter Singer's "well analogy":
"If you walk past a well, and there was a kid drowning, and you could step in and save them, but it would destroy your $20 pair of pants, would you do it? Everybody says yes, but what if you see the kid the next day, would you do it then? Eventually, at some point you're gonna stop saying yes, because you wouldn't wanna ruin a $20 pair of pants everyday. Or if you say yes you'd do it every single day, why aren't you donating some of that dollar amount to Africa every single day because you could effectively save the life of a kid." - Destiny
Throughout the conversation, Dan maintains that each individual draws a "line in the sand" with regards to what level of personal sacrifice they are comfortable making. Rem largely agrees with this point, but argues that one should look on a "case-by-case" basis to determine when a personal sacrifice aught to be made. The primary contention arises over where "the line" should be. Dan and Destiny argue that moral responsibility often lies with individuals/entity which cause another person's suffering to occur, while Rem contends that the responsibility should be equally shared by those who allow the suffering to occur and individuals who cause it.
Following this conversation, Rem and Dan engaged in several debates on Dan's own stream regarding this same topic.
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Dan takes a trip to Hawaii with Destiny, MrMouton, and Melina
On June 20, 2019, Dan, Destiny, MrMouton, and Melina, IRL-streamed portions of a trip to Hawaii.
Highlights from the stream include:
- 2:40 As the group walks to their hotel, Dan explains CBD to Destiny, describing it as some "hipster shit" that "doesn't get you high at all".
- 6:15 A family of ducks walks by.
- 7:05 The group enters a restaurant.
- 13:55 Destiny is mocked for spilling something on his shirt.
- 14:43 Dan expresses his frustration with Destiny consistently pointing the camera at him.
Dan discusses the US housing situation with Destiny
On May 29, 2019, Dan spoke with Destiny regarding the present housing situation in the US, Japan, and several other countries. [4] The video begins with Destiny and Dan discussing the legality of Airbnb, while both agree the company is flagrantly breaking the law, Destiny is of the opinion that housing in the US is in an incredibly poor state regardless of such companies. Destiny points to several market failures making it seemingly impossible to allow for the construction of more housing, Dan agrees and argues this being a result of the "tyranny of the majority". Dan then explains Proposition 13 to Destiny, a state amendment which allows homeowners to "cap" their property tax at the time of purchase, resulting in individuals paying property tax on any piece of real estate well below its actual value. From there, the two discuss the tax-advantaged nature of real estate investment, and the "over-obsession" by Americans in wanting to purchase a home.
Dan debates Stop Sign etiquette with Destiny and Devin Nash
On June 28, 2019, Destiny, Dan, and Devin Nash engaged in a fairly heated debate regarding stop sign etiquette. [5] The conversation was spurned on following Destiny's reaction to a twitch clip involving Mitch Jones and KBubbles seemingly breaking several rules involving stop signs at multiple intersections. Following much deliberation between Destiny and his chat, he asserted the following:
"Nobody gives a fuck about rolling stops or full stops unless you're fifteen and you're in driver's-ed. I'm talking about treating stop-signs appropriately as though who has the right-of-way, who's allowed to go first." - Destiny
This claim sparked several heated exchanges between Destiny(aided by microsoft paint) and DGGers regarding stop-sign etiquette. Destiny's primary contention being that despite Kbubbles being an overtly "shit driver", the intersection itself appears to be somewhat faulty by an "all-direction stop" standard. Dan eventually joins the call, seemingly ready to debate, and explains the most important factor in all direction stops is the order each driver arrives at the intersection. Dan goes on to argue that if two cars arrive at the same time, the driver "going left" at the intersection(pictured right) takes priority. While Destiny agrees with Dan regarding the "order of arrival" at an intersection taking priority, Destiny takes severe issue with Dan's latter assertion, arguing that the person "going straight" through the intersection in fact takes priority. As a result, Destiny and Dan proceed to debate the order of priority during various stop-sign intersection scenarios, coupled with the practicality of a "rolling" vs "full" stop. While Dan eventually concedes that the person "going straight" does take priority, the debate on rolling vs full stops remained quite contentious with Dan routinely calling Destiny a dangerous driver, and Destiny accusing Dan of being unpragmatic.
Devin eventually joins the conversation, and backs-up most of Dan's arguments(he later admits his opinion is partially informed by bearing witness to Destiny's "insane" driving from the passenger seat). Following Devin's arrival, Destiny draws out yet another intersection scenario(depicted right), and asks Dan if he believes the drivers in this example should move in a clockwise fashion, or move parallel to one another. Dan and Devin both argue it would depend on whomever arrives at the intersection first, and could certainly see a scenario wherein the drivers move in a clockwise fashion. Destiny responds by screaming in frustration at the pair, and accuses Dan of acting in bad faith.
The trio then spends some time looking through various pieces of stop-sign intersection footage on YouTube. Despite an overwhelming amount of evidence showing instances of drivers both taking the "clockwise" and "parallel" priority approaches, neither party moves from their aforementioned positions, and the call eventually concludes with Dan declaring himself triumphant.
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Dan debates flat taxes with Destiny
On February 7, 2020 Dan and Destiny held a brief debate on the subject of Flat Taxes. [6] Dan argued that flat taxes, particularly those which target purchases rather than sales, could aid in preventing wealthy individuals from amassing massive amounts of untaxed wealth through asset appreciation. Destiny's counter argument was that flat taxes are inherently regressive and ineffective, suggesting it could disincentivize investments since taxes would be paid upfront, possibly leading to decreased market activity. Destiny goes on to point out that such a system could hurt the market's liquidity, as investors might be hesitant to engage in transactions knowing that each would trigger a tax event. The conversation concludes with Destiny and MrMouton laughing and "cringing" at Dan.
Dan discusses Renewable Energy and Physics with Destiny
On September 21, 2020 Dan and Destiny briefly debated the feasibility and economics of nuclear energy.[7] The conversation begins with a discussion on energy sources, particularly nuclear and renewable energies. After being questioned on his stance regarding nuclear energy from a chatter, Destiny expresses ambivalence about the economic viability and safety of the energy alternative, citing improvements in newer reactors but also voicing concerns over catastrophic risks and insurance costs. Dan then brings up Solar and Wind as potential minimal risk energy alternatives. Destiny also voices concerns about these alternatives, pointing to the potential for solar panels to affect Earth's surface temperature and the subtle but significant local climatic effects of wind farms.
After discussing energy alternatives, the two spend the remainder of the call debating Energy, Work, and Thermodynamics. The kickoff for this topic was based off a hypothetical posited by Dan:
"If you have a one-thousand watt computer in a box, is that gonna heat the box the exact same amount as a one-thousand watt space heater?"-Dan
Destiny, drawing on answers from DGG physicists, initially asserts the temperature would be different between the two boxes due to the fact that the computer might not convert all its energy into heat. However, after further questioning by Dan, Destiny searched online for more information and eventually found evidence suggesting that his initial claim might have been incorrect. Following this, Dan and Destiny debate several variations of potential-energy/kinetic-energy related hypotheticals before a donation posits yet another hypothetical to the two: If a ship sinks in a fixed body of water, does the water level rise or fall relative to when the ship was floating? Destiny argues it would depend on how much empty space is in the boat that was submerged before going under, while Dan argues it would also depend on the density of the boat.
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Computer vs Space heater
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Dan debates power supplies with MrMouton and Destiny
On October 25, 2020 Dan, Destiny, and MrMouton debated the usefulness of power supplies, particularly for gaming setups. [8] Following a disturbing recollection from MrMouton describing how he forced himself to vomit after consuming a bagel that had sat out for two hours, Dan asks Destiny what his plans are for the day. Destiny responds he's going to be doing a sponsorship for an Uninterruptible Power Supply(UPS): The APC UPS 1500 VA for Gaming. Dan criticized the "gaming" label on the sponsorship as merely a price increase tactic, arguing that one could simply buy a "life-sized anime plushie," place a UPS inside it, and get the same result. Dan then linked a "business-level" UPS, which Destiny and MrMouton mocked for its "boring" appearance.
The conversation continues, and Dan questions what the hold up is on Lithium powered UPS's. Dan suggested thats that while more expensive, Lithium batteries could offer longer-lasting power compared to traditional batteries used in UPS systems. Destiny speculated that Lithium batteries may not be able to hold a large amount of charge for an extended period, and safety may be a concern. Dan then argues that one could utilize an 18650 battery to power the UBC as a cheaper alternative-slightly safer-alternative. MrMouton suggests that Dan should develop this product if he's so sure of it, to which Dan states he has "too many pots in the fire" and is currently working on redact.dev.
A chatter then informs Destiny that he is able to run a very power demanding setup for at least an hour on a $160 UPS. The three then discuss the loading times of their respective UPS's. Following this, another chatter inquires on the benefits of UPS's. Destiny responds that it's nice to be able to save one's work in the midst of a power-outage, Dan chimes in and adds that an abrupt power outage may also damage one's PC. Destiny takes issue with Dan's response and the two deliberate(heatedly) for some time the potentiality for a power-outage to damage one's PC. Following a similarly heated debate on the ability of a surge protector to protect one's PC setup, Destiny watches a clip of Dan misspeaking, and the call concludes.
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Dan talks with Destiny(Responding to Criticism, The Boys, Crypto, DGG coin, Helping Biden)
On July 23, 2022 Dan joined Destiny's stream to discuss Twitter, The Boys, Cryptocurrency, and Biden.[9] The discussion began with Dan joining the call after Destiny proclaimed his interactions with the left were slowly making him more "racist and sexist at the same time". Dan responds by advising Destiny not to let his hatred of the far-left push him towards another extreme, and that Destiny primary focus should be on making "Liberalism seem cool". Dan goes on to suggest that Destiny should consider focussing on his optics a bit more, and that it has been a rough year to be a Destiny fan. In response, Destiny accuses Dan(lightheartedly) of being disconnected and old, states that this has been the best year he has had career-wise, and informs Dan that his overuse of melatonin has likely addled his brain.
The conversation continues, and Dan fruitlessly attempts to discuss an article relating to the potential obsolescence of submarines. Upon Destiny's hesitancy to stake out a position on the subject, Dan proclaims that talking with Destiny is "like pulling teeth sometimes". Destiny responds that his hesitancy stems from a fear of being lambasted by his subreddit for every assertion he doesn't fully qualify, and points to a hate thread they both received on r/Destiny because they didn't recall certain details about The Boys(a TV series). Dan informs Destiny that every person in that thread has likely never experienced sexual intercourse, and the two discuss the ridiculousness of the thread(particularly a comment where they were both accused of showing early signs of Alzheimer's) as well as their issues with the television show for some time. Dan and Destiny argue that the over prevalence of heros, and the inability to discern which are invincible/bulletproof, has made the show a shadow of its former self. The two ultimately conclude the show is for dumb people.
Dan and Destiny then discuss cryptocurrency for some time. Dan begins this conversation by asking Destiny if he would ever invest in bitcoin again. Destiny informs Dan that he currently holds around .4 coins(~$13,000)in crypto presently, but would probably never invest a large-sum again. Dan then asks Destiny how much longer they'll "have to put up with" NFTs, and expresses his overall disdain with similar crypto-schemes as a concept. Dan argues that cryptocurrency should probably be outlawed, given the amount of nefarious underdealings and "rugpulls" surrounding the currency. Dan further asserts that the true victims of crypto are the poor/uninformed individuals who bought into the hype of the currency at its peak, and invested an inordinate amount of their wealth into a very speculative investment vehicle. Destiny agrees, and points out that cryptocurrency has spawned a "whole generation of scammers" looking for the next way to rob people of their savings through similar investment schemes. Despite the aforementioned misgivings with cryptocurrencies, Dan does concede that the ability of such a currency to prevent "chargebacks" should be commended.
Following the crypto discussion, Dan asks Destiny what he would do if he was placed in an advisory position to President Biden, and tasked with finding a way to drive up the president's approval rating. The two brainstorm the following:
1. Dan suggests that the people want girlfriends, and the best path forward to foster said relationships is to create state-owned dating apps( à la Tinder) with a mandated profile to its citizens.
2. Destiny suggests that Biden should do cool things like snowboarding, or assassinating Putin. Dan was amiable to the former suggestion while hesitant to the latter.
3. Destiny suggests that Biden could undo the revocation of permits on oil drilling in federal lands. Dan argues that this would be a poor idea as Biden would want to implement some restrictions on selling of said oil to only domestic consumers, which Oil companies would find a way to circumvent.
4. A chatter suggests that Biden could implement trains, to which Dan responds
"Whoever said trains, look inside yourself and know that nobody cares about trains, no one. The only people that care about trains are leftists, that's it... Trains and libraries. You know what? Get rid of all the libraries, huge savings that we can have there."
- - Dan on trains and libraries(Dan later admits the library portion was a joke)
5. A chatter suggests that Biden should get rid of Social Security to aid his approval rating. Destiny responds that this would be the worst possible thing Biden could ever do, and would negatively impact his largest voter base. Dan chimes in that the chatter Destiny responded to tends to type in all caps about everything, and with a great(undeserved) level of authority. Dan further asserts that said chatter doesn't actually "know shit".
The conversation eventually wraps up as Dan departs from the call, shortly after informing Destiny he's going to make burgers on his new griddle.
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Why Intel's Meltdown Might Be A Huge Opportunity WIP
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Faceblindness
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A list of random people that Dan has (usually) erroneously compared to others.
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Corey Comperatore |
Arnold Vosloo |
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Tayler Hansen |
Hasan Piker |
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Notable Memes
External Links
References
- ↑ Destiny. (2018, February 14). Twitch TOS & Nudity - ft. Devin Nash & Harkdan. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9ZC7v-P2Rc
- ↑ Destiny. (2018, October 9). Investment, Real Estate and Stocks ft. Mylixia and Harkdan. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB8u3x70B50
- ↑ Destiny. (2019, June 6). Responsibility of harm ft. RemTheBathBoi & Harkdan. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E9N2YVntuY
- ↑ Destiny. (2019, June 10). This situation is so messed up... ft. Harkdan. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZR3KaWTXIY
- ↑ Destiny. (2019, July 5). The Stop Sign Debate ft. Dan Saltman & Devin Nash. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6mn21D7Kys
- ↑ Destiny. (2020, February 18). Flat tax debate ft. Harkdan. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlZr_uYmD_4
- ↑ Destiny. (2020, September 22). The New Portal Debate - Physics Questions w/ Dan. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4klKoRYQSI
- ↑ Destiny. (2020, October 25). Are Power Supplies Useful? Arguing w/ Mouton and Dan. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM4V69u8bak
- ↑ DalibanHQ Highlights. (2022, July 23). Destiny Talks w/ Dan (Responding to Criticism, The Boys, Crypto, DGG coin, Helping Biden). YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDhD4pNOY8o